I thought that was the crusades in the Levant.
Nope. Was supposedly said by Bishop Arnaud Amalric in 1209 during the siege of Bézier.
Mind you, that's the sort of quote that give itself to many circumstances.
I thought that was the crusades in the Levant.
Plenty of people see Protestantism and Catholicism as essentially separate religions. Not so much in the West but in East Asia the question "Are you Catholic or Christian?" isn't uncommon, with Christian meaning Protestant.
I've heard the same thing from fundamentalist protestants in the US.
Actually, if forced, I would take the opposite tack. Roman Catholicism claims to trace its origins back to Paul and (through many means) became the only recognized Christian sect in the Roman Empire. They (and the Eastern Orthodox) are the closet major denominations to what may be considered the "original" Christianity once the creeds were established in the 3rd and 4th centuries. To Romans, it is the Protestants who left the fold and must return to the faith.
What about the Samaritans? They accept only the Pentateuch (Five Books of Moses) as scripture, so they consider Abraham to be their ancestor, but reject all of the Prophets later than Moses. I am no expert, but they sound a lot like the "original" Isrealites minus their polytheism. This could explain the historical hostility between the Samaritan and Jewish peoples, since the Jews accepted the whole Torah and the Samaritans accepted only the first five books of the Torah.Wouldn't an "Abrahamic" religion have to accept the Jewish bible, with its story of Abraham, as an inspired word of God? Islam and "orthodox" Chistianity do. I don't see how the early "non-orthodox" Christian sects that completely rejected the Torah and ascribed it to a lesser deity who created the material world they did not worship could be considered "Abrahamic" if they had survived. They did not worship the God of Abraham.
According to 2 Kings, the Samaritans were a combination of those left around Samaria after the Assyrian conquest and deportation, intermarrying with the pagan people the Assyrians deported into the region. Their religious traditions mixed too, apparently. You can argue the relative numbers as much as you want, and they obviously ended up a lot closer to the Jewish end of the scale than the pagan, but I don't see any reason to doubt the story.Could the term "Samaritans" be related to the historical kingdom of Samaria, half (together with Judea) of the original Isreal? I do know that the two kingdoms' religious traditions were related but different.
Yeah, I've heard it both ways-Christian and Catholic in the US, Christian and Protestant in France. It annoys the hell out of me personally.
I've heard the same thing from fundamentalist protestants in the US.
Actually, if forced, I would take the opposite tack. Roman Catholicism claims to trace its origins back to Paul and (through many means) became the only recognized Christian sect in the Roman Empire. They (and the Eastern Orthodox) are the closet major denominations to what may be considered the "original" Christianity once the creeds were established in the 3rd and 4th centuries. To Romans, it is the Protestants who left the fold and must return to the faith.
Me too. As far as I am concerned, if someone self-identifies as a "Christian", who am I to say they aren't if they say they follow the ethical teachings of Christ or accept certain theological statements about him?