Opinions on Brigadier Evans Carlson

I am thinking of incorporating Brigadier Evans Carlson into my Vietnamese TL.

He seems fairly innovative and willing to incorporate ideas that could work in different situations.

What is the board's opinion?
 
Brilliant tactical leader. His Long Patrol with the Raider Battalion on Guadalcanal reflected everything he had learned from operations in Haiti and Nicaragua or China. The destruction of the Japanese supplies, harrasment and attrition of the Japanese forces, and sucessful supply/communications of the Raiders without clear or secure LoC is a understudied but masterful action.

How Edson would have been as a senior General I cant say. Some masters of tactics or operations fail at the stratigic level. Others prove equal as commanders of squads or armies. Edsons experience with the Communists in China would have given him a unique perspective on fighting the VC/NVA. But, as a commander of armies he would have had to have been as masterful of politics as he was at leading companies & battalions.

There were other Marine officers of the same era as Edson who might have filled the same role from bush to palace as you seem to be aiming at. Hanneken is worth a look. Krulak was undeniablly brilliant in the upper levels, tho his experience was much less in the brush or insurgent war. A number of US Army officers were not far off from Edsons ability, tho again few to none could present his tactical experience.
 
Thanks for the response.

By far I think that Brigadier Evans Carlson seems to be the best fit for my TL. After all his impact is limited to developing doctrine and emphasising a small unit approach, both of which are critical for my embryonic army.

Who were the other Army officers that you were thinking of? I had briefly considered Vinegar Joe having a look, but I thought he would be too senior. Ideally I would like a logistics specialist...
 
There was Col Darby who organized & led the European Ranger units, Brigadier Fredricks who suceeded him, Lieutenant Colonel Mucci who organized & led the rangers in the Pacific. Col Merril 'Merrils Mauraders'. There were the OSS gang, and some other who were involved in the Phillpines resistance to Japanese occupation.
 
Frederick

Frederick actually led 1st Special Service Force...The Devil's Brigade and later commanded the 45th IN Div and then 4th ID in the peace/Korean War. Then US Military Aid lead in Greece.
Very non-conventional with conventional and higher level experience.
Carlson would be great in many ways if he could maneuver politically without Roosevelt. He was an outside the box thinker who new Maoist theory. But, he was also born in 1896 and when American influence was growing in VN in the early 60's he would have been in his mid 60's. As a result of his hard living in the field he was retired in 46 and died in 51.
Edson is also a good choice, but likewise he fell on his sword to defend the post WW2 USMC and later had emotional problems that led to a possible suicide. He may have been the proper mix of warrior conventional/unconventional and able to play well with others...atleast in the USMC.
 
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He sounds like a pretty handy soldier to have and I think Major General Frederick will lead the advisory team to my pro west Vietnam.
 
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