Once Upon A Time In Hollywood

Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by mspence, Jul 24, 2019.

  1. mspence Well-Known Member

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    The new Quentin Tarantino flick, which has received good to mixed reviews, is set in what is described as an alternate TL. Without giving too much away, it involves a TV actor and his stuntman friend, Sharon Tate, and the infamous Manson family in 1969 Hollywood, at a time when the industry is changing as Old Hollywood gives way to the New Hollywood of movies like Easy Rider and Midnight Cowboy. So, does it count as alternate history or not?
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  2. Mr_Fanboy Well-Known Member

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    Firstly, the critical consensus does appear to be very positive, according to Rotten Tomatoes.

    Secondly...

    I heard about the ending, which involves Sharon Tate escaping death at the hands of the Manson Family and joining with Bruce Lee, Leonardo DiCaprio’s character, and Brad Pitt’s character to kill them in a climactic showdown.

    This certainly qualifies as alternate history to me, as such an event would noticeably change the history of Hollywood and California.
     
  3. thekingsguard Founder of Korsgaardianism

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    Wouldn't be the first time Tarantino has dabbled in some casual alternate history.

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    Okay, maybe not SO casual, given last time he had Eli Roth barbecue the entire Nazi chain of command.
     
  4. Mr_Fanboy Well-Known Member

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  5. ANARCHY_4_ALL Evolution and The Revolution

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    Just finished seeing the film last night. And while Mr. Fanboy's spoiler is not too far off. In the actual ending it is Cliff Booth, his dog Brandy, and Rick Dalton who kill the fuck out of the three Manson family members sent to kill the occupants of the house on Cielo Drive. Dalton sees the would be murderers preparing to attack the Polanski home and proceeds to ferociously cuss them for their obscenely loud muffler. They go back down the road and come back on foot. Recognizing who Dalton is they change their plans to murder him for his contributions to violence on film and television. In an epic display of irony and Tarantino violence they receive the"totally destroy everyone in [it], as gruesome as you can" treatment.

    Several months ago I predicted something a little closer to what Mr. Fanboy heard was the ending. I said that Steve McQueen and Bruce Lee happen to be at the residence on the night of the attack. And the two of them proceed to beat the life out of the Manson family attackers. I still believe this would have been a much better and fitting ending. Also, Charlie never receives his just desserts in the true ending of the film too which disappointed me. Otherwise it was an alright movie but only that IMO. I'd still suggest you see it if you are a Tarantino fan and I would def like to re-watch it to possibly get a better opinion of it.
     
  6. Mr_Fanboy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, the spoiler I read turned out to be technically inaccurate, but not so far off.

    It occurs to me that Quentin Tarantino, intentionally or unintentionally, has perhaps done more than any other Hollywood director to thrust alternate history into the mainstream.
     
  7. Pkmatrix Godzilla Fanboy Monthly Donor

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    Having seen the movie too, and having been completely unaware of the rumors surrounding the ending, yeah my friends and I were pretty stunned. Definitely an alternate history film.

    @ANARCHY_4_ALL - While that would've been cool too, the movie is ultimately not about them. It makes more sense, story-wise, for it to go where it does and end how it does. (At least IMO.)
     
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  8. NoOneFamous Well-Known Member

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    loved the movie
     
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  9. Harry_Z_Trumen Member

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    With my interest in ATL and 1950/1960's culture I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but my partner who has absolutely no idea about the Manson Family (or even who Sharon Tate was), thought it was kind of "meh".
     
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  10. Danthefan28 Well-Known Member

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    I enjoyed the film. The acting was great, even from characters who are barely in the film, or have limited roles. Leo and Brad were fun as hell, Brad Pitt especially.
    I found the ending surprisingly uplifting and almost heart warming. It makes me want to make a "Tarantinoverse" TL or a story thread.