Why would he be kicked? He doesn't seem like a chap to do something offensive or out of order.....
What were the Caucasian tribes?
I know about the Inerians and Colchii
What were the Caucasian tribes?
I know about the Inerians and Colchii
On eastern shores – A Roman Timeline
- Thread starter Alcsentre Calanice
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This belongs in chat, but if you ask me, I was kicked two times because of pointless misunderstandings (of that one time because I said that the majority of parents would prefer heterosexual children over homosexual ones, which was said to be homophobic, even if I only pointed out that there is a problem with homophobia
). I shouldn't write too much in chat... The main problem is that I lost my enthusiasm for the timeline. And when I write something I don't want to write, the result is utter crap. But if you want to, as my loyal readers, I can write one last post about how I conceived the TL to end.
Liber Octavus: Epilogus
Caput Unicus
When Lucius, in 1027 AUC [1], concluded the Peace of Phanagoria, it was the starting point for a short period of peace, which ended with the Second Persian War, when the Persians, once again, tried to retake Mesopotamia and maybe even more of the Roman East. The result of this war was the annexation of central Iran, a success which earned Lucius the tile of New Alexander and King of Asia.
However, it was doubtful how Rome was to govern a territory so large, especially how to defend it against the emerging Indian Empires replacing the Kushans, especially the mighty Gupta Empire. Then, the Gothic tribes tried, in a great revolt, to shake off the Roman yoke, and this was for Lucius the perfect pretense to deport the Gothic population into Gedrosia, Hyrcania and Persia.
There the Goths served the Roman Empire as foederati, and even if they despised the Romans for being banished at the end of the world, they were hated by the Persians even more – this circle of hate served the Roman interests since it prevented any larger alliance between the Persians and the Goths. With the passing on of time however, the hatred between the Romans, Persians and Goths disappeared, the Goths became romanized and a culture never seen before, a culture with a Roman core influenced by Persian and Gothic culture.
But when Lucius died, this new Alexandrian Empire proved to be much to large. A throne pretender of Geta's family revolted against Lucius' son Claudius and, supported by the Greek aristocracy, abolished the old meritocratic, centralized, Legalist state. Like his father, he preferred Byzantium rather than Rome or other cities, and it is there that he established his capital.
However, the civil war between the Getaists and the Imperials had weakened the central power, and the Prefects of Italy and Persia became more or less viceroys ruling their part of the country. The Roman Empire became divided into three parts, with the central region around Byzantium controlling the western and the eastern region less and less tightly.
This period was a period of economic liberalization due to the lack of a strong state; especially in Germania, Gaul and Britannia, the agriculture was modernized by early mechanization, the heavy and wheeled plow as well as by the diffusion of the three-field system; this process, leading to an unknown demographic growth, but also to the increased power of the rich landowners and the creation of a system of fiefs and serfdom, known as Feudalism.
Another chapter to speak about in these times is the religious fanaticism. The authority of the old religions was shattered, but many still worshiped the old gods. A movement in Buddhism, known as Radicalism, wanted to eradicate any impurities of religion and eliminate the ongoing veneration of gods.
The following war, disastrous for the empire and particularly cruel due to the bigotry and the use of the new firearms, opposed the Western Empire, led by the Traditional so-called King of Gaul, and the Central Empire, ruled by the Radical Emperor of Byzantium (the Roman Emperor). The most fervent supporters of Radicalism were the Britons, and their side was close to win before the Traditionalist Persian Empire intervened in the war and ended the pointless fighting.
At the end of this terrible War of Religion, the status quo ante bellum was restored. The Roman Emperor had to recognize the titles of King of Gaul and King of Asia, titles he had refused to acknowledge until then due to his claim to be the only ruler in the Empire. This marked the begin of the second phase of Feudalism, the so-called Byzantinism, characterized by the independence of the different Roman states and the primacy of the aristocracy other simple citizens, regardless of merits, wealth or income.
The end of Byzantinism came with the British Revolution, when the still Radical Britons revolted for their old liberties. This revolution, even if it was limited only to Britain, inspired, some decades later, the better known Gaulish Revolution. This revolution, influenced by philosophers, rejecting old religions and dogmas, claimed for the restoration of the old, unified Empire as well as for the reestablishment of the republican constitution.
Starting in Gaul, the revolution soon spread to Hispania and Germania. Even if the troops of the old monarchies were better armed and trained than the revolutionaries, the Gaulish armies had the advantage of a high morale and the best leader of all, a Corsican general soon known as the second Romulus. The Byzantine troops were driven out of Rome and Romulus appointed Dictator by the votes of all liberated provinces of the Roman Empire.
Under Romulus, Rome recovered its status as capital of all Romans, and Latin, after centuries of Greek dominance, became once again official language of the res publica. In fact, it belongs to the darker sides of Romulus' government that the Hellenic, Celtic and Persian was consequently oppressed by the new Roman authorities which aimed at establishing Latin as the unique language of the Empire.
Romulus is still best known for his campaigns and his military genius; indeed, he was a superb tactician and achieved to conquer the Asian and African part of the old empire in less than a decade. He could have been remembered forever as the restorer of the Empire if it wasn't for the Indian Campaign, an attempt to achieve more than Alexander the Great.
The first part of the Indian Campaign was quite successful, with Romulus well organized army of veterans crushing the small Indian contingents. However, the campaign turned into an awful guerrilla warfare, and next to the city of Indabara [2], the war ended in a disaster. Revolts erupted in Greece and Egypt, forcing Romulus to return; then, in the Persian highlands, he was killed by a disloyal officer, and the empire he created broke quickly apart.
The century following Romulus' death was a century of fragmentation, with the old Byzantine noblemen recovering many of their thrones – only Britannia and Gaul conserved the constitution enacted by Romulus and slowly developed into democracies. However, it was also a period of progress, as both agricultural and industrial techniques were improved, and the first factories and railway lines appeared, soon becoming large industrial hotspots and forming a network of tracks connecting all provinces of Rome.
In this period, many left Europe for the Hibernian and Gaulish colonies in the New World, where they hoped to find liberty and prosperity. But the memory of Romulus, the memory of all the Roman heroes of two millenniums hadn't vanished, and in many parts of the continent, opposition formed against the remnants of Byzantinism, against the political fragmentation of Europe and against the social wrongs.
The result of this was the Federalist Movement, claiming for a federal union of all provinces. Finally, revolutions in Italy, Egypt and Mesopotamia allowed for this dream to come true, and a federation of all provinces, including the colonies in the west, was established as a multicultural and multiracial empire. Power is now vested in the People's assembly, whereas the democratically elected Senate leads the government of the republic.
And even if the Empire still hadn't faced the challenges of industrial warfare, of worldwide wars against India and China, its democratic constitution proved to be a strong fortress against foreign aggression, and its Greco-Roman tradition a point of reference often invoked to remind the citizens of their duty and of their liberal heritage to preserve.
[1] 274 CE
[2] Delhi
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“Since well I've played my part, all clap your hands
And from the stage dismiss me with applause.”
Caput Unicus
When Lucius, in 1027 AUC [1], concluded the Peace of Phanagoria, it was the starting point for a short period of peace, which ended with the Second Persian War, when the Persians, once again, tried to retake Mesopotamia and maybe even more of the Roman East. The result of this war was the annexation of central Iran, a success which earned Lucius the tile of New Alexander and King of Asia.
However, it was doubtful how Rome was to govern a territory so large, especially how to defend it against the emerging Indian Empires replacing the Kushans, especially the mighty Gupta Empire. Then, the Gothic tribes tried, in a great revolt, to shake off the Roman yoke, and this was for Lucius the perfect pretense to deport the Gothic population into Gedrosia, Hyrcania and Persia.
There the Goths served the Roman Empire as foederati, and even if they despised the Romans for being banished at the end of the world, they were hated by the Persians even more – this circle of hate served the Roman interests since it prevented any larger alliance between the Persians and the Goths. With the passing on of time however, the hatred between the Romans, Persians and Goths disappeared, the Goths became romanized and a culture never seen before, a culture with a Roman core influenced by Persian and Gothic culture.
But when Lucius died, this new Alexandrian Empire proved to be much to large. A throne pretender of Geta's family revolted against Lucius' son Claudius and, supported by the Greek aristocracy, abolished the old meritocratic, centralized, Legalist state. Like his father, he preferred Byzantium rather than Rome or other cities, and it is there that he established his capital.
However, the civil war between the Getaists and the Imperials had weakened the central power, and the Prefects of Italy and Persia became more or less viceroys ruling their part of the country. The Roman Empire became divided into three parts, with the central region around Byzantium controlling the western and the eastern region less and less tightly.
This period was a period of economic liberalization due to the lack of a strong state; especially in Germania, Gaul and Britannia, the agriculture was modernized by early mechanization, the heavy and wheeled plow as well as by the diffusion of the three-field system; this process, leading to an unknown demographic growth, but also to the increased power of the rich landowners and the creation of a system of fiefs and serfdom, known as Feudalism.
Another chapter to speak about in these times is the religious fanaticism. The authority of the old religions was shattered, but many still worshiped the old gods. A movement in Buddhism, known as Radicalism, wanted to eradicate any impurities of religion and eliminate the ongoing veneration of gods.
The following war, disastrous for the empire and particularly cruel due to the bigotry and the use of the new firearms, opposed the Western Empire, led by the Traditional so-called King of Gaul, and the Central Empire, ruled by the Radical Emperor of Byzantium (the Roman Emperor). The most fervent supporters of Radicalism were the Britons, and their side was close to win before the Traditionalist Persian Empire intervened in the war and ended the pointless fighting.
At the end of this terrible War of Religion, the status quo ante bellum was restored. The Roman Emperor had to recognize the titles of King of Gaul and King of Asia, titles he had refused to acknowledge until then due to his claim to be the only ruler in the Empire. This marked the begin of the second phase of Feudalism, the so-called Byzantinism, characterized by the independence of the different Roman states and the primacy of the aristocracy other simple citizens, regardless of merits, wealth or income.
The end of Byzantinism came with the British Revolution, when the still Radical Britons revolted for their old liberties. This revolution, even if it was limited only to Britain, inspired, some decades later, the better known Gaulish Revolution. This revolution, influenced by philosophers, rejecting old religions and dogmas, claimed for the restoration of the old, unified Empire as well as for the reestablishment of the republican constitution.
Starting in Gaul, the revolution soon spread to Hispania and Germania. Even if the troops of the old monarchies were better armed and trained than the revolutionaries, the Gaulish armies had the advantage of a high morale and the best leader of all, a Corsican general soon known as the second Romulus. The Byzantine troops were driven out of Rome and Romulus appointed Dictator by the votes of all liberated provinces of the Roman Empire.
Under Romulus, Rome recovered its status as capital of all Romans, and Latin, after centuries of Greek dominance, became once again official language of the res publica. In fact, it belongs to the darker sides of Romulus' government that the Hellenic, Celtic and Persian was consequently oppressed by the new Roman authorities which aimed at establishing Latin as the unique language of the Empire.
Romulus is still best known for his campaigns and his military genius; indeed, he was a superb tactician and achieved to conquer the Asian and African part of the old empire in less than a decade. He could have been remembered forever as the restorer of the Empire if it wasn't for the Indian Campaign, an attempt to achieve more than Alexander the Great.
The first part of the Indian Campaign was quite successful, with Romulus well organized army of veterans crushing the small Indian contingents. However, the campaign turned into an awful guerrilla warfare, and next to the city of Indabara [2], the war ended in a disaster. Revolts erupted in Greece and Egypt, forcing Romulus to return; then, in the Persian highlands, he was killed by a disloyal officer, and the empire he created broke quickly apart.
The century following Romulus' death was a century of fragmentation, with the old Byzantine noblemen recovering many of their thrones – only Britannia and Gaul conserved the constitution enacted by Romulus and slowly developed into democracies. However, it was also a period of progress, as both agricultural and industrial techniques were improved, and the first factories and railway lines appeared, soon becoming large industrial hotspots and forming a network of tracks connecting all provinces of Rome.
In this period, many left Europe for the Hibernian and Gaulish colonies in the New World, where they hoped to find liberty and prosperity. But the memory of Romulus, the memory of all the Roman heroes of two millenniums hadn't vanished, and in many parts of the continent, opposition formed against the remnants of Byzantinism, against the political fragmentation of Europe and against the social wrongs.
The result of this was the Federalist Movement, claiming for a federal union of all provinces. Finally, revolutions in Italy, Egypt and Mesopotamia allowed for this dream to come true, and a federation of all provinces, including the colonies in the west, was established as a multicultural and multiracial empire. Power is now vested in the People's assembly, whereas the democratically elected Senate leads the government of the republic.
And even if the Empire still hadn't faced the challenges of industrial warfare, of worldwide wars against India and China, its democratic constitution proved to be a strong fortress against foreign aggression, and its Greco-Roman tradition a point of reference often invoked to remind the citizens of their duty and of their liberal heritage to preserve.
[1] 274 CE
[2] Delhi
======
“Since well I've played my part, all clap your hands
And from the stage dismiss me with applause.”
I really wished this could have continued. But seriously.
It's was a beautiful. Beautiful thing.
In my eyes at leat, this will always be one of the greats.
It's was a beautiful. Beautiful thing.
In my eyes at leat, this will always be one of the greats.
I enjoyed the timeline. It's a shame it's over but at least It had a nice epilogue (instead of being abandoned without explanation). It is a good ending.
Don't worry. It's possible that I'll start another TL soon, maybe even a Roman one.
Skallagrim
Banned
It is naturally regrettable that you no longer felt good about writing the TL, @G.Washington_Fuckyeah - I know that lousy feeling of losing interest in a project, or just getting stuck - but it's very nice that you have provided everyone with this epilogue/outline. And the strong historical parallelism, while not exactly adding to realism, does add the kind of flair that such an epilogue deserves.
Thanks for the TL and all the effort you put into it!
Thanks for the TL and all the effort you put into it!