Oklahoma in the Confederacy

What would the CSA do with the territory of what would have became Oklahoma if it had won and took it after the Civil War?
 
Leave it to the Indians.

There's not much TO do with it until either land hunger or some other reason comes along.
 
Stand Watie would probably end up in charge of it until the Confederates, like the Union before it, looked to expand into Indian territory and kicked the Native Americans off the land. Then some Confederate-Indian wars.
 
Would they just kick the Indians off, or would they find some excuse to enslave them? I'm not sure how linked slavery was to blacks specifically; Indians were also considered a "lesser race," of course.
 
They would in all likelihood use the Five Civilized Tribes in the same fashion the USA will be using runaway blacks, as a propaganda exercise. That these tribes themselves own slaves would grease the skids, so to speak.
 
They would in all likelihood use the Five Civilized Tribes in the same fashion the USA will be using runaway blacks, as a propaganda exercise. That these tribes themselves own slaves would grease the skids, so to speak.

They didn't necessarily have the same type of slavery as the confederates, though. The Seminole system of slavery, I believe, was similar to European feudalism in that their slaves tithed them a portion of their harvest but otherwise were largely left alone. The other tribes considered the Seminole slaves the tribe's military allies, and often attacked them. The presence of black Seminoles in Indian territory could create interesting tension as blacks escaped from other masters turn to that tribe for protection, causing massive tension between the Seminoles and other slave-owning cultures in the area.
 
Stand Watie would probably end up in charge of it until the Confederates, like the Union before it, looked to expand into Indian territory and kicked the Native Americans off the land. Then some Confederate-Indian wars.

Then expect a lot of Union meddling.
 
Leave it to the Indians.

There's not much TO do with it until either land hunger or some other reason comes along.

This is true, but remember, there is oil in Oklahoma and if the Confederacy lasts long enough, they'll want their piece of that as well.
 
This is true, but remember, there is oil in Oklahoma and if the Confederacy lasts long enough, they'll want their piece of that as well.

More likely, some US-owned oil company will try to set up a Nigeria-style oil kleptocracy, import laborers, and grease just the right palms to extract maximum profit for minimum cost. The indians will get kicked off their own land, and the CSA will begin its new life as a banana republic
 
This is true, but remember, there is oil in Oklahoma and if the Confederacy lasts long enough, they'll want their piece of that as well.

If it lasts long enough and if oil is discovered in large enough quantities to be worth exploiting (as opposed to it being ignored as not worth the investment) and if nothing else (like what Lost the game said) happens.
 
They didn't necessarily have the same type of slavery as the confederates, though. The Seminole system of slavery, I believe, was similar to European feudalism in that their slaves tithed them a portion of their harvest but otherwise were largely left alone. The other tribes considered the Seminole slaves the tribe's military allies, and often attacked them. The presence of black Seminoles in Indian territory could create interesting tension as blacks escaped from other masters turn to that tribe for protection, causing massive tension between the Seminoles and other slave-owning cultures in the area.

I don't think the CSA would let such petty things as mere reality interfere with their geopolitical rivalry with the USA. :p
 
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