Oh I Wish I Was in Dixie: A Different North America

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Did the space race happen in this timeline?
Yes, but it goes at a slower pace than in OTL. The Soviet Union is generally considered to be the winner first putting a man in space in space in 1966 and landing a man on the moon in 1976 (after their first attempt in 1972 ended in the loss of all their astronauts lives). However the huge amounts that the Soviets spent on their renowned space program (and their bloated military) is thought of as one of the biggest contributors to the country's poor economy that led to its collapse in 1985. The Commonwealth Space Agency (which is a joint effort including the entire Commonwealth of Nations not just America) was playing catch-up with the Soviets throughout the space race, but today the Commonwealth Space Agency is the leader in the world's space programs while what is left of the Soviets' program in the Russia is just now being revived to attempt to regain its former glory.
 
FSD Senate
The Senate of the Federated States of Dixie
I changed the way the Senate is elected a bit. Now the Senate elections are staggered like the US Senate. Each state has 6 Senate seats, and the Senators serve 9 year terms with 1/3 of the Senate (2 seats from each state) being up for reelection every 3 years. In each state, voters have 2 votes to select 2 senators. Senate elections are notorious for both incumbent advantages (in each election usually only 1 or 2 incumbents will lose reelection) and vote-splitting between political parties, though this effect has been weakening over the years.

Class 1 Senators were last elected in 2018 and will be up next in 2027, Class 2 Senators were last elected in 2012 and will be up next in 2021, and Class 3 Senators were last elected in 2015 and will be up next in 2024.

I've listed all the Senators by Class, and with their party and year they were first elected. This list is still accurate except for the year elected in some cases (and for Senator David Perdue, who I've replaced with Jack Kingston

Alabama

Class 1
  • Roger Bedford Jr. (U- 2000)
  • Sue Bell Cobb (U- 2018) +
Class 2
  • Doug Jones (U- 2012)
  • Bill Cabaniss (N- 1994)
Class 3
  • Richard Shelby (N- 1988)
  • Luther Strange (N- 2015)

Arkansas

Class 1
  • Greg Leding (U- 2018) +
  • Kim Hendron (N- 2009)
Class 2
  • Pat Hays (U- 2012)
  • John Boozeman (N- 2005; Special Election)
Class 3
  • Blanche Lincoln (U- 1997)
  • Tim Hutchison (N- 1997)

Florida

Class 1
  • Bill Nelson (U- 2000)
  • Rick Scott (N- 2018)
Class 2
  • Betty Castor (U- 2003)
  • Gwen Graham (U- 2012)
Class 3
  • Katherine Harris (N- 2006)
  • Charlie Christ (N- 2015)

Georgia

Class 1
  • Jim Martin (U- 2000)
  • Michelle Nunn (U- 2018)
Class 2
  • Max Cleland (U- 1994)
  • Jack Kingston (N- 2012)
Class 3
  • John Lewis (SDP- 1988)
  • Teresa Tomlinson (U- 2019; Appointed)

Kentucky

Class 1
  • Ben Chandler (U- 2009)
  • Allison Lundergan Grimes (U- 2018)
Class 2
  • Bruce Lunsford (U- 2003)
  • Mitch McConnel (N- 1985)
Class 3
  • Daniel Mongiardo (U- 2006)
  • Trey Grayson (N- 2015)

Louisiana

Class 1
  • Foster Campbell (U- 2018)
  • Jacques Roy (PLL- 2018)
Class 2
  • David Vitter (N- 2003)
  • Don Cazayoux (PLL- 2012)
Class 3
  • Mary Landrieu (U- 1997)
  • Charlie Melançon (PLL- 2006)

Mississippi

Class 1
  • Travis Childers (U- 2009)
  • Angela Turner Ford (U- 2018) +
Class 2
  • Johnny Dupree (U- 2012)
  • Bennie Thompson (SDP- 2003)
Class 3
  • Ronnie Musgrove (U- 2006)
  • Roger Wicker (N- 2006)

Missouri

Class 1
  • Jim Talent (N- 2000)
  • Clint Zweiful (U- 2018) +
Class 2
  • Claire McCaskill (U- 2003)
  • Robin Carnahan (U-2012)
Class 3
  • Sarah Steelman (N- 2006)
  • Francis Slay (PLL- 2015)

North Carolina
Class 1
  • Jeff Jackson (U- 2018)
  • Richard Burr (N- 2009)
Class 2
  • Erskine Bowles (U- 2003)
  • Janet Cowell (U- 2017; Special Election)
Class 3
  • Anthony Foxx (SDP- 2015)
  • Elaine Marshall (U- 2006)

South Carolina

Class 1
  • Jim Hodges (U- 2009)
  • Lindsay Graham (N- 2000)
Class 2
  • Inez Tenenbaum (U- 2003)
  • Joyce Dickerson (U- 2012)
Class 3
  • Tim Scott (N- 2015)
  • Jim DeMint (N- 2006)

Tennessee

Class 1
  • Bob Corker (N- 2009)
  • Sarah Kyle (U- 2018) +
Class 2
  • Jim Cooper (U- 1994)
  • Lamar Alexander (N- 1994)
Class 3
  • Lincoln Davis (U- 2006)
  • Barbara Blackburn (N- 2015)

Virginia

Class 1
  • Creigh Deeds (U- 2009)
  • Tom Perrielo (U- 2018)
Class 2
  • Jim Gilmore (N- 2003)
  • Natalie Tennant (U- 2018; Special Election)
Class 3
  • Mark Warner (U- 2006)
  • Shelley Moore Capito (N- 2015)

West Florida

Class 1
  • David Baria (U- 2018)
  • Caroline Fayard (PLL- 2018)
Class 2
  • Deborah Dawkins (U- 2003)
  • Jay Dardenne (PLL- 2012)
Class 3
  • Jo Bonner (N- 2006)
  • Matt Gaetz (N- 2018; Special Election)

+ = Gain in last election
 
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Can you please give us some examples of Dixie sitcoms?
Les Temps- Les Temps (The Times) is a multi-cam sitcom revolving around the journalists that work for the fictional "Les Temps" newspaper in St. Louis, MO and is by far the most popular french-language television show in the country. It has been going on for 7 seasons now with several more possible. One of the more popular actors on the show, Jared Metrejon, recently announced his departure from the show to pursue his music career. Les Temps is incredibly popular among francophones in Dixie and its English dubbed version is also fairly popular in the rest of Dixie and abroad.

Tituss- Tituss is a new multi-cam sitcom starring comedian Tituss Burgess who plays a struggling stand-up comedian and musician attempting to get his big break in Atlanta. The show has gotten rave reviews and is notable for being the first prime-time sitcom in Dixie to star a Black LGBT person. The show recently won Best Comedy at the Dixie TV Awards in February 2020.

How Do We Do It?- How Do We Do It? is a somewhat new single-camera traditional sitcom starring Ben Browder and Emily Procter as they attempt to raise their children in the fictional small town of Meyersburg in western North Carolina. The show has been going on for 4 seasons now and is particularly popular among older Dixians who may prefer the traditional sitcom format of the show.

The Carlsons- The Carlsons has been off the air for over 30 years now but is one of the most beloved sitcoms to ever be made in Dixie. The show revolves around a black family, The Carlsons, in Richmond, VA. It is most well known for being the first majority black show to gain popularity among the white population, and it was the first majority black show that many networks even put on their broadcasts. A survey of what people said was the best TV shows of the 20th century by You! Magazine ranked The Carlsons as the third highest. The show is also known for catapulting Morgan Freeman, who played Jeremy Carlson on the show, into stardom, and he is one of the most famous actors in Dixie today.

It looks like there might be a typo about when the class 3 senators were last elected.
Thank you, you're right. I accidentally mixed up the Class 2 and 3 years too. Fixed now.
 
2018 Republic of Quebec General Election
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2018 Republic of Quebec General Election
On June 12, 2018, the Republic of Quebec, which gained independence from the Commonwealth of America in 1976, held elections for all 126 members of its National Assembly. The incumbent minority Parti Démocratique Progressiste (PPD) government led by Prime Minister Tom Mulcair lost their position as the largest party in the National Assembly to Maxime Bernier's Ralliement National (RN) who secured a majority in the assembly.

The RN was able to succeed due to a united right-wing after the collapse of the center-right Parti Républicain (PR). The competition between the RN and the PR continued over the last 20 years allowing the PPD and the center-left Parti Québécois (PQ) to be the two largest parties in the country from 1999 to 2018. The collapse of the PR and the PPD allowed the RN to achieve a majority in the Assembly despite only getting 36% of the vote.

The incumbent PPD government, after 2 consecutive minority governments from the 2013 and 2009 elections, saw their support collapse by 10% and lost nearly 2/3 of their seats in the Assembly. The PQ led by Michael Michaud remained the official opposition in the assembly, and only gained 2 seats despite seeing their vote share rising by nearly 10%.




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*I used the Quebec Assembly map from wikipedia and just added Labrador.*
 
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View attachment 5291092018 Republic of Quebec General Election
On June 12, 2018, the Republic of Quebec, which gained independence from the Commonwealth of America in 1976, held elections for all 126 members of its National Assembly. The incumbent minority Parti Démocratique Progressiste (PPD) government led by Prime Minister Tom Mulcair lost their position as the largest party in the National Assembly to Maxime Bernier's Ralliement National (RN) who secured a majority in the assembly.

The RN was able to succeed due to a united right-wing after the collapse of the center-right Parti Républicain (PR). The competition between the RN and the PR continued over the last 20 years allowing the PPD and the center-left Parti Québécois (PQ) to be the two largest parties in the country from 1999 to 2018. The collapse of the PR and the PPD allowed the RN to achieve a majority in the Assembly despite only getting 36% of the vote.

The incumbent PPD government, after 2 consecutive minority governments from the 2013 and 2009 elections, saw their support collapse by 10% and lost nearly 2/3 of their seats in the Assembly. The PQ led by Michael Michaud remained the official opposition in the assembly, and only gained 2 seats despite seeing their vote share rising by nearly 10%.




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*I used the Quebec Assembly map from wikipedia and just added Labrador.*
A Bernier victory is highly concerning, but great wikibox nonetheless!
 
I'd like to know more about;
1) Progressive Party of America . It doesn't seem to have been a socialist party at its foundation. How has the party changed, and how strong has it been historically?
2) the DPP. Was there another major conservative (but less populist) party before its foundation?
3) the music of this TL. Does blues music still evolve among the black population, and how does it spread?
 
Aside from a "united right-wing" under now PM Bernier *shudders* what contributed to PM Mulcair's significant fall from power?
Jack Layton led the PPD when it won its first election in 20 years in 2009 coming just short of a majority in the Assembly. After Layton's death in 2011, Mulcair became the Prime Minister, but was not nearly as successful as Layton. The PPD's win in 2013 was a huge upset, but left the PPD with a much less seats and a much tougher position to run their minority government. Since 2013, Mulcair has largely been seen as ineffectual while Michaud and the PQ gained large amounts of influence over the government. Many media pundits even going so far as to call Michaud "The Real Prime Minister" as Mulcair struggled to get anything done without Michaud and the PQ's support. When the 2018 elections came, the PPD's downfall was mostly due to its voters moving to the PQ.

I'd like to know more about;
1) Progressive Party of America . It doesn't seem to have been a socialist party at its foundation. How has the party changed, and how strong has it been historically?
2) the DPP. Was there another major conservative (but less populist) party before its foundation?
3) the music of this TL. Does blues music still evolve among the black population, and how does it spread?
1.) The Progressive Party was strong in the early 20th century but was largely replaced as the dominant left-wing party by Labor by the 30's. Throughout the rest of the 20th century, the party remained as a very small part in federal American politics, but stayed somewhat popular in parts of the Upper Midwest. In recent decades, as the Labor Party has been criticized for moving further to the center, the Progressives have risen in popularity largely on the basis of their anti-interventionist policies, more protectionist trade policies etc. They reached their high water mark in modern times in the 2004 elections getting 149 seats, and in 2019, they were part of the government for the first time since the 1920's.
2.) The DPP when it was founded in the early 1990's was the first successful right-wing party in federal politics other than the Liberals in nearly a century. The Liberals were pretty successful up to that point in keeping the right-wing united under them.
3.) Blues still rises from the Black community in Dixie and many of them carry the music to the Commonwealth during the Great Migration in the early 1900's. Blues first becomes very popular among the White population in Dixie in the 1950's and 60's, but mostly through the white musicians that adopted the music style with musicians in the Commonwealth following suit afterwards.
 
Thanks kindly for your answers. A few follow-up wonderings only:

Jack Layton led the PPD when it won its first election in 20 years in 2009 coming just short of a majority in the Assembly. After Layton's death in 2011, Mulcair became the Prime Minister, but was not nearly as successful as Layton.

I thought Jack Layton was American and leader of the progressives from 2009 to 2011 in this timeline?
3.) Blues still rises from the Black community in Dixie and many of them carry the music to the Commonwealth during the Great Migration in the early 1900's. Blues first becomes very popular among the White population in Dixie in the 1950's and 60's, but mostly through the white musicians that adopted the music style with musicians in the Commonwealth following suit afterwards.

Was that popularity surge instead of Rock and Roll or is it analogous to the British blues boom of the 60s, just slightly earlier?

I wish I wasn't so annoyingly curious about this timeline. It's just so bloody well done - one could think that you've simply stepped into it and brought over a few articles to OTL.
 
I thought Jack Layton was American and leader of the progressives from 2009 to 2011 in this timeline?
Oh oops, I had completely forgotten that I made him the leader between Kucinich and Sanders. Well since he didn't play much of a role in the Commonwealth, I'm just going to keep him as the Quebec Prime Minister then. And retcon Sanders as the leader directly after Kucinich.
Was that popularity surge instead of Rock and Roll or is it analogous to the British blues boom of the 60s, just slightly earlier?
Yes its pretty similar to the British blues boom, but lasts for a longer time. Rock and Roll still becomes popular in that same 50's-60's timeframe, though it remained the most popular genre of music for much longer.
I wish I wasn't so annoyingly curious about this timeline. It's just so bloody well done - one could think that you've simply stepped into it and brought over a few articles to OTL.
Thank you so much!
 
I'm currently making a Mosaic Earth and debating what to put in the USA. So far I've locked in California from A Golden Island to the West, Texas (only the Texas Commonwealth) from Lone Star Republic, five states (Transylvania, Georgia, West and East Florida, and Mayaimi) from the Union of American Realms. and New England from Our Fair Country; I also want to take at least the Northeast and Pacific Northwest from A More Perfect Union. Currently my two remaining main contenders for the region are TTL and the Affilated States of Boreoamerica TL. I'd ideally like to take the most important, powerful and/or unique regions from TTL.
 

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Les Temps- Les Temps (The Times) is a multi-cam sitcom revolving around the journalists that work for the fictional "Les Temps" newspaper in St. Louis, MO and is by far the most popular french-language television show in the country. It has been going on for 7 seasons now with several more possible. One of the more popular actors on the show, Jared Metrejon, recently announced his departure from the show to pursue his music career. Les Temps is incredibly popular among francophones in Dixie and its English dubbed version is also fairly popular in the rest of Dixie and abroad.

Tituss- Tituss is a new multi-cam sitcom starring comedian Tituss Burgess who plays a struggling stand-up comedian and musician attempting to get his big break in Atlanta. The show has gotten rave reviews and is notable for being the first prime-time sitcom in Dixie to star a Black LGBT person. The show recently won Best Comedy at the Dixie TV Awards in February 2020.

How Do We Do It?- How Do We Do It? is a somewhat new single-camera traditional sitcom starring Ben Browder and Emily Procter as they attempt to raise their children in the fictional small town of Meyersburg in western North Carolina. The show has been going on for 4 seasons now and is particularly popular among older Dixians who may prefer the traditional sitcom format of the show.

The Carlsons- The Carlsons has been off the air for over 30 years now but is one of the most beloved sitcoms to ever be made in Dixie. The show revolves around a black family, The Carlsons, in Richmond, VA. It is most well known for being the first majority black show to gain popularity among the white population, and it was the first majority black show that many networks even put on their broadcasts. A survey of what people said was the best TV shows of the 20th century by You! Magazine ranked The Carlsons as the third highest. The show is also known for catapulting Morgan Freeman, who played Jeremy Carlson on the show, into stardom, and he is one of the most famous actors in Dixie today.


Thank you, you're right. I accidentally mixed up the Class 2 and 3 years too. Fixed now.
Can you please give us some examples of Dixie sci-fi?
 
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