No questions this time around (Since I'm waiting for the previous ones to be answered), just some cool art on the OTL Fiuman combatants I found last night while searching up the "La Disperata ".
All of these are NOT BY ME, instead they are by the great artist linseed on Deviantart.

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Right now I'm just contemplating what the flag for Carnarist Italy might look like. In my opinion, an all-red rectangular flag with the Fiuman ouroboros and the Big Dipper in the middle of it looks best to me. It's simple and aesthetically pleasing (well, pleasing to me). However, the communist and socialist movements have already kinda appropriated red flags for their own use. Plus, if you've got Carnarist and Communist combatants both wearing red armbands, there would be a strong possibility of an increase in friendly fire incidents. The Carnarists could switch to using black (like the OTL National Fascist Party had for its flag color) or blue (What Wikipedia says was the color used by the Italian Nationalist Association and its militia, the unsurprisingly named Blueshirts). IMHO however, red just goes best for the flag. It gives of a sort of vibrant feel to it, with the gold ouroboros and stars a good color on the red. What does the author and my fellow readers think? Have we got any more ideas? Let's hear them out!
 
Do you want me to scrap all of my work and effort just so it's acceptable to you?
The great novelist William Faulkner once said: "In writing, kill all your darlings." What he meant was: when you have written something you are sure is wonderful - get rid of it, because it is really awful.
What the fuck is your endgame here?
I prefer TLs that don't include gross physical impossibilities.

I could write a TL in which Queen Victoria, for her Golden Jubilee (in 1887), decided to visit India. And shocked everyone by having an affair with an elderly maharajah. And had a mixed-race child.

The first part is unlikely, the second part is wildly implausible, but possibly fun. The third part is what-the-bleeding-*^&%-were-you-thinking (or -smoking)??? impossible. It wouldn't matter how much research I did into Victoria's household and the earlier life of the maharajah, or how beautifully I described Victoria's sea passage and the costumes and ceremonies of the Great Durbar.
 
The great novelist William Faulkner once said: "In writing, kill all your darlings." What he meant was: when you have written something you are sure is wonderful - get rid of it, because it is really awful.
I think that’s what drafting is for, at the end of the day, this timeline in novel terms would be a first draft. Get your ideas down, have folks read and critique etc. And ensure the second draft is even better. I think the idea of telling someone to scrap a project because of some mild flaws is the writing equivalent of telling someone to torch there restaurant because you found a tiny hair in your soup.

I’m not saying that you can’t have complaints, but grilling someone over it ain’t the way to go.
I prefer TLs that don't include gross physical impossibilities.
Maybe I prefer stories over accuracy, there is a point where you do have to stop researching and write and care about the consequences later.

I could write a TL in which Queen Victoria, for her Golden Jubilee (in 1887), decided to visit India. And shocked everyone by having an affair with an elderly maharajah. And had a mixed-race child.

The first part is unlikely, the second part is wildly implausible, but possibly fun. The third part is what-the-bleeding-*^&%-were-you-thinking (or -smoking)??? impossible. It wouldn't matter how much research I did into Victoria's household and the earlier life of the maharajah, or how beautifully I described Victoria's sea passage and the costumes and ceremonies of the Great Durbar.
But it would be interesting wouldn’t it. Like I would read it, accuracy be damned because it’s interesting. I would prefer to read an interesting timeline over a dull pinpoint accurate one. Counting Rivets, a timeline it not make.
 
I think that’s what drafting is for, at the end of the day, this timeline in novel terms would be a first draft. Get your ideas down, have folks read and critique etc. And ensure the second draft is even better. I think the idea of telling someone to scrap a project because of some mild flaws is the writing equivalent of telling someone to torch there restaurant because you found a tiny hair in your soup.

I’m not saying that you can’t have complaints, but grilling someone over it ain’t the way to go.

Maybe I prefer stories over accuracy, there is a point where you do have to stop researching and write and care about the consequences later.


But it would be interesting wouldn’t it. Like I would read it, accuracy be damned because it’s interesting. I would prefer to read an interesting timeline over a dull pinpoint accurate one. Counting Rivets, a timeline it not make.
I agree with what is being said here. This timeline doesn't have a great amount of polish or professionalism as published novels do, but does it really? Clearly a good deal of effort and research was put into it, and while there are some flaws, what work doesn't? At the end of the day, we're just a bunch of random strangers sharing our ideas and stories on an Internet forum, which is to me really inspiring when one goes over some of the stories on here. There'll probably a well-educated sort of fellow on the level on professor or something on here, but a fair majority of us are people who just want to simultaneously share our ideas and entertain others. Fan fiction writers are just random amateurs and strangers, yet they've created some glorious and immersive content. And let's be honest, once you think about it alternate history is just fanfiction of real life history.

While Anarch King does have some legitimate criticisms of The Miracle of Vlora, I feel that the critique could have been more constructive. Pointing out the flaws is important, yes. However, what is more important is to offer up solutions to fix the flaws. If you think you've got a potential remedy for it, share it! Will your proposed solution be implemented? Either yes or no is the answer, but what's important is that you came up with a potential solution and, by sharing it, possibly injected some creativity into the creative veins of the creator. Which is important, since there is simultaneously a shortage and abundance of creativity in creators all over. Creativity shall and always will be in demand.

I wholeheartedly believe in the trope Reality Is Unrealistic. While events in this story may seem contrived and the like with sudden happenings happening to shift the plot into it's intended way, so has history. There have been events in history that would make us shake our heads in disbelief, but they have and did occur. And this is a story after all, not a full and proper textbook. Stories have and always will be to mainly entertain. If Hannibal can cross the Alps, than Domenico can march from Vlora.
 
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The great novelist William Faulkner once said: "In writing, kill all your darlings." What he meant was: when you have written something you are sure is wonderful - get rid of it, because it is really awful.

I prefer TLs that don't include gross physical impossibilities.

I could write a TL in which Queen Victoria, for her Golden Jubilee (in 1887), decided to visit India. And shocked everyone by having an affair with an elderly maharajah. And had a mixed-race child.

The first part is unlikely, the second part is wildly implausible, but possibly fun. The third part is what-the-bleeding-*^&%-were-you-thinking (or -smoking)??? impossible. It wouldn't matter how much research I did into Victoria's household and the earlier life of the maharajah, or how beautifully I described Victoria's sea passage and the costumes and ceremonies of the Great Durbar.
Who pissed in your corn flakes?

Take it down a couple notches
 
Memes. It's What's for Dinner.
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I'd genuinely like to see a show or story about the adventures of "Koba and Kamo".
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The only real loss is the risk of dying in combat, but really, who would pass up free drugs?

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Armor looks cool, and that's a fact.
 
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Hey folks! Apologies for the extended radio silence on my part, the last three weeks (November 30th to December 16th) were my final weeks of class for the semester, so I was trying to focus on that for the most part. I'll get around to answering questions and laying out my plans for the future tomorrow, but in the meantime I'll leave y'all with this exquisite meme I made for the Italian Civil War in-between working on classwork! Enjoy!

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Hey folks! Apologies for the extended radio silence on my part, the last three weeks (November 30th to December 16th) were my final weeks of class for the semester, so I was trying to focus on that for the most part. I'll get around to answering questions and laying out my plans for the future tomorrow, but in the meantime I'll leave y'all with this exquisite meme I made for the Italian Civil War in-between working on classwork! Enjoy!

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But in all seriousness, great work with the meme! A nice little present for the holidays. I hope you did well with your studies. You know, speaking of presents, I've got one that's almost done, just need to finish the last bits of it, but on Christmas day I'll post it for the thread and forum to see! Happy Holidays to you all!
 
Unfortunately, there are some technical difficulties as the pictures I wanted to post on this thread are apparently too fat to fit onto it. My apologies for this delay. In the meantime, would you kindly illustrate your current status and plans for this timeline Persephone? Thank you all for understanding. Have a Merry Christmas everyone!
 
Hey there, folks! First off, I want to sincerely apologize for the rather extensive radio silence regarding the timeline, that wasn't my intention at all. Holidays can be rather painful for me and this year was no exception, with Christmas and New Year's being particularly difficult. I'll try to answer some previously unanswered questions tomorrow but for now I can give a quick update on what's been done so far. Essentially, I haven't written anything substantial in a while and I'd be lying if I said that I had. Between the ongoing COVID situation and everything else that's happened this year, I've been overwhelmed by stress for a good while and haven't done much for the timeline. That being said, Of Poets and Supermen isn't dead, far from it! Most of you will have noticed by now that in place of the introduction, there's a fancy new title card and that the title itself has changed (yet again)!

What this essentially means is that going forward, I'll be splitting OPAS into two (possibly three depending on how much gets written) volumes, just to make it more accessible for future readers. Now, Volume II is naturally a long way away, but the gist of what I've got planned is that Volume I will roughly cover the interwar years up until the late 40s/early 50s, at which point Volume II (tentatively titled A Brave New World) will begin. From there, the narrative will shift to cover the *Cold War and the various aftereffects of the wars in the preceding decades. I've always intended to publish/release OPAS as its own work once finished, and the whole point of me posting it here being that I can get feedback as I write in order to make any edits/revisions that are necessary. With that in mind, I'll be going back to rewrite the sections in Chapter III relating to Mondelli and the Miracle of Vlora as well as the latter part of Chapter IV itself. This isn't because of any one person's influence, mind you, but because the more I looked over it the more dissatisfied I was with how I did things there.

Additionally, I've also decided to rename Lorenzo Secondari because while Pirate Utopia is a huge source of inspiration for Carnarist Italy and his character, I don't want Bruce Sterling to send his cybernetic lawyer hit squad after me sue me in the event that OPAS gets published. I can't really tell y'all when the next update is going to come, since my writing takes a while and my next semester begins on Monday, but rest assured that I haven't abandoned this. While I've got your attention, feel free to take a gander at my game over in the Shared Worlds sub-forum (link is in my signature), Destiny Made Manifest, which has the same quality writing that y'all know (whether you love it is debatable) with the twist that audience participation is actively encouraged! Finally, I have something that I think a lot of y'all will like: a commissioned piece of artwork that I had done of the dearly departed/renamed Lorenzo Secondari done by my lovely friend Fritz (who you can follow on Twitter here). Without further ado, I'd like to present you all with The Pirate of Turin, Lieutenant Emanuele Filiberto Negrini!

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So here it is. I apologize for the time it took to get it on here. This creation and it's posting is both my first fanart of anything, and my first Imgur Post! So, I hope everyone enjoys this (late) Christmas Present!
So, first of all: holy shit. This is incredibly touching and I'm still as genuinely awestruck as I was when I first saw this a few weeks ago. The fact that I got actual fanart for the alternate history project that I first came up with late at night back in 2017 means the world to me, especially when I frequently question whether my own work is deserving of praise and recognition. It's an amazing feeling to know that someone likes my writing enough to do something like this and I'm honestly stunned. Thank you so much, seriously.
 
Hey there, folks! First off, I want to sincerely apologize for the rather extensive radio silence regarding the timeline, that wasn't my intention at all. Holidays can be rather painful for me and this year was no exception, with Christmas and New Year's being particularly difficult. I'll try to answer some previously unanswered questions tomorrow but for now I can give a quick update on what's been done so far. Essentially, I haven't written anything substantial in a while and I'd be lying if I said that I had. Between the ongoing COVID situation and everything else that's happened this year, I've been overwhelmed by stress for a good while and haven't done much for the timeline. That being said, Of Poets and Supermen isn't dead, far from it! Most of you will have noticed by now that in place of the introduction, there's a fancy new title card and that the title itself has changed (yet again)!

What this essentially means is that going forward, I'll be splitting OPAS into two (possibly three depending on how much gets written) volumes, just to make it more accessible for future readers. Now, Volume II is naturally a long way away, but the gist of what I've got planned is that Volume I will roughly cover the interwar years up until the late 40s/early 50s, at which point Volume II (tentatively titled A Brave New World) will begin. From there, the narrative will shift to cover the *Cold War and the various aftereffects of the wars in the preceding decades. I've always intended to publish/release OPAS as its own work once finished, and the whole point of me posting it here being that I can get feedback as I write in order to make any edits/revisions that are necessary. With that in mind, I'll be going back to rewrite the sections in Chapter III relating to Mondelli and the Miracle of Vlora as well as the latter part of Chapter IV itself. This isn't because of any one person's influence, mind you, but because the more I looked over it the more dissatisfied I was with how I did things there.

Additionally, I've also decided to rename Lorenzo Secondari because while Pirate Utopia is a huge source of inspiration for Carnarist Italy and his character, I don't want Bruce Sterling to send his cybernetic lawyer hit squad after me sue me in the event that OPAS gets published. I can't really tell y'all when the next update is going to come, since my writing takes a while and my next semester begins on Monday, but rest assured that I haven't abandoned this. While I've got your attention, feel free to take a gander at my game over in the Shared Worlds sub-forum (link is in my signature), Destiny Made Manifest, which has the same quality writing that y'all know (whether you love it is debatable) with the twist that audience participation is actively encouraged! Finally, I have something that I think a lot of y'all will like: a commissioned piece of artwork that I had done of the dearly departed/renamed Lorenzo Secondari done by my lovely friend Fritz (who you can follow on Twitter here). Without further ado, I'd like to present you all with The Pirate of Turin, Lieutenant Emanuele Filiberto Negrini!

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So, first of all: holy shit. This is incredibly touching and I'm still as genuinely awestruck as I was when I first saw this a few weeks ago. The fact that I got actual fanart for the alternate history project that I first came up with late at night back in 2017 means the world to me, especially when I frequently question whether my own work is deserving of praise and recognition. It's an amazing feeling to know that someone likes my writing enough to do something like this and I'm honestly stunned. Thank you so much, seriously.
*STOMP* *STOMP* PERSEPHONE LIVES!
A (more or less) Happy New Year to everyone! It is good to hear from you once again! I hope you have been taking care of yourself! The new title card and the new reworked future compass have gotten me excited for the future! So, if I assume correctly, you wish to do what Napo53 has done for WMIT? And potentially publishing this? Very ambitious, and exciting! Your choice to rename and recharacterize Lorenzo to Emanuele is a good choice. Nobody likes to be sued, and there's nothing really bad with a stand-in/replacement OC. His looks kinda reminds me of Adam Jensen from Deus Ex. I assume you took some inspiration from him? He's not going to be a Marty Stu, is he? I ask merely out of curiosity and a general love of well-rounded characters. Y'know, speaking of OC's, I'm actually making some OC's myself as I type. It'll take some time though, but I've got the general idea on what I want them to be like.
Your response to my fanart means as much as to me as it has to you. Your applause for my simple drawings bring great joy into my heart. Take your time to work on your writing and caring for yourself, as I will for myself. So, before I finish this post, I do have some questions. These questions will also be helpful in assisting me with creating my OC's.

1. Unless you intend to have a separate chapter for them, what sort of foreign volunteers are fighting for the Carnarists?
2. What will be the views on the LGBTQ+ community in Carnarist Italy? I understand if a separate chapter is better suited for it, but even the basics will be nice. Since the Commandant himself has had some unique carnal experiences, I don't think he'll be that much inclined to crack down on people of queer orientation, unless he has to make some concessions to appease the more conservative factions.
3. And lastly, what will be the view on individuals of biracial and multi-ethnic descent? I can imagine Mondelli as a good figure to combat racism, though it will divisive to some in the Civil Rights Movement (Marcus Garvey likely won't be happy when he finds out Mondelli was a result of "miscegenation").

So, it's good to hear from you once again, and I hope all of us on this website stay safe. I'll make a post giving my two-bits on some of the reworked futures in the future compass soon. Take care everyone, and let our creativity be everlasting!
 
Meme a little meme of me...

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This one kinda was like my first reaction to the Fiat 2000. That thing got C H U N K.
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As much as they may try to limit the atrocities, this is a civil war we're talking about. There will always be that one person who treats the Geneva Convention more like the Geneva Suggestions. I also love and hate the fact that saying "It's war crime time." rolls of the tongue so well. That's a cursed catchphrase if I ever saw one.
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Marinetti would be the sort of guy to have a Lightning McQueen body pillow. Their militarism, glorification of violence, and misogyny are major turnoffs to what would otherwise be a decent enough ideology (At least in my opinion, get rid of the proto-fascist elements and replace them with something more humane and rational and you just might have something. At least, in my eyes.). They hate women so much, I bet that if both men and women could get pregnant, they would stick to men (Hey, that's not a bad quote, might reuse it for a story or something).

Seeing how it's been pretty quiet on this thread,I decided to bring back some activity to it before the tumbleweeds come. I hope everyone enjoys these memes. Take care and stay safe!
 
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Hey @Persephone! I've got a few ideas and questions, well in reality I've got them something like two-three months ago, but since I'm lazy and also I got to study for an exam session which went horribly in every case, I kinda pushed them forward to now. So, I've thought (EDIT: I finished writing and I realized that in the stream of consciousness I wrote a wall of text, I hope the formatting makes it more readable!):

1 - On the education system​


  • Have you thought about how the Italian education system will work under the Carnarists? OTL, the Fascists made the Gentile Reform, which is still the backbone of the Italian education system to this day. It sanctioned the charachteristics of licei, technical and professional schools, and defined the programs studied in those schools. It was a reform heavily influenced by Italian Idealist philosophy, the Italian school of neo-hegelianism, of which Giovanni Gentile, the author of the reform, was a major supporter. Basically - all of what I'm about to rant about is according to my high school philosophy book I'm skimming through, and I'm probably saying it in a really incorrect way - Hegel said that the various aspects of reality we observe (the finite) are just manifestations of an Absolute, a universal organism (the infinite) that encompass everything that is, and this absolute is constantly in the making, self-producing itself and manifesting itself as what it is only in man, in his highest activities (art, religion and philosophy).

    Italian Idealists accept this concept, but they refuse another fundamental of Hegel's philosophy, which is the triadist division of the making and the manifestation of the idea (logos, nature and Spirit); for Italian Idealists there is only the spirit, only the self-conscious idea. Gentile take this a level forward, and says that Hegel was wrong because he made a dialectics of the thought, the concept itself, while the only valid dialectics is the one of the thinker, and so the only true reality is the current subject of the thought of a thinker at work (from this "current subject" shit, Gentile's thought is called Actualism). So, nothing have a sense, nothing exists outside the subject. Gentile, when talking about that current thought, find three moments ("hey, welcome back, hated triad"); first, self-consciousness, so a moment of pure, unbrindled, abstract subjectivity; second, consciousness of something else, so a moment of pure, unbrindled, astract objectivity; third and last, consciousness of itself which it is counsciousness of something else (? GG, what the fuck), which it's a concrete moment where unity between subject and object happens. For Gentile, the human activities that are related to these three moments of thoughts are art (subjectivity). religion (objectivity), and philosophy (unity of subject and object, so the only concrete one, da best). So, thesis, antithesis and synthesis going hard as always.

    Why did I do this pippone about Hegelian philosophy? Well, as you'll note, between those human activities there is a quite curious absence; science. Oh, but don't worry, Gentile had his thought even about that one. For GG science stands between art and religion, because it shares with the first an anti-systemic tendence and with the second a realistic-dogmatic nature. Which for Gentile means that science doesn't even have that partial validity that art and religion have, and it's a synthesis of their worst characteristics. Which means, moving to a more concrete plane of reality, that his education reform prescribed a mid-to-high level education based on humanistic knowledge, putting science on a lower step of the ladder. Which means that this complex reflection on the maximal systems of reality are the reason why my best friend was encouraged by orientation activities and his family to go to an high school which stressed him to exhaustation translating a 2000-years old text from a dead language just because he was a good student who liked to read and write in middle school.

    Really, Gentile reformed the Italian education system in the image of his philosophy. The classical liceo, based on humanistic formation, with Latin, Ancient Greek, Literature and Philosophy as the central topics, was the only high school which permitted the access to any University course, while scientific liceo gave only access to technical-scientific ones, technical institutes to even fewer and magistral ones only to the course to become elementary school teachers. It was built as a pyramidal, elitist system where the stuff under the cuspid was, IMHO, badly organized while the top, the gimnasium and the classical liceo, was meant for the elites, for the children of the aristocracy and the party leadership, to be enlightened and able to master the unity between subject and object and understand the absolute reality.

    Now, I don't know shit about the relations between D'Annunzio and Gentile, or even between D'Annunzio and the Italian school of Hegelianism, so I don't know if Carnarist Italy would employ Gentile to forge the new education system of Italy. But, for starter, considered the literate nature of D'Annunzio, maybe he'll be more engaged in that particular section of government. Going beyond that, let's see what could happen if Carnarists liked or disliked Idealism. If they liked it, we may see Gentile doing it even ITTL, maybe with different bonds and interjections by the Vate. Or we could see an alternative Idealist in his place; the other great Italian Idealist was Benedetto Croce, who had different ideas about the spirit and his manifestation from Gentile which I'm not going to talk about, and that politically was an unabashed liberal, so I don't know where he would sit in the Civil War. Maybe there are other Idealists, which I don't know. If they dislike Idealism, they'll have to see somewhere else.

    An idea, like I said, is to suppose D'Annunzio or one of the other intellectuals who lead the Regency of Carnaro would take a personal interest into that and that he, or someone close to him, would take the role of Minister of Education. Another idea, which I find really interesting, is the possibility of a offer of public office for Maria Montessori and the implementation of her method. To make a broad summary of her work, she thought that children develop through interaction with their environment, and that young children, left free to act as they will in a prepared environment, would develop themselves in an optimal way spontaneously. Montessori schools use things as mixed-age classrooms, learning by work with materials, student choice of activities, integration of nature in the school environment, etc. Her method tends to foster indipendent thought, and a healthier approach to schoolwork, and in various rilevations Montessori schools performed as well if not better than "traditional" schools. Now, I have no idea about her opinion of Gabriele D'Annunzio, nor the opinion D'Annunzio had of her. But Montessori had set up some private school in Italy under Mussolini without many problems, even if obviously the Fascist regime never adopted her ideas in the national education system, and even if D'Annunzio and Mussolini are different people, and Carnarism and Fascism are different ideologies, what could have repelled her from Carnarist Italy didn't repell her from Fascist Italy IOTL, so if Carnarists would be interested in her work and offered her to take them to the whole Italy, I don't think she would refuse.

2 - On some cool dude​


  • There is an historical charachter which I think it would be really interesting to see in Carnarist Italy: Cosma Manera. He was a major in the Carabinieri who was sent in mission to Russia to rescue thousands of ethnic Italians captured serving Austria-Hungary by Russians. With the start of the Russian Civil War his mission became an epic journey through a broken Russia, gathering a crowd of thousands irredenti and smuggling them on the Transiberian Railway, the only safe way out of Petrograd. He slowly traveled east, finally reaching Vladivostok, only to discover that the harbor was blocked by ice. But Manera found a safe place to go: the most forgotten one of all the Italian colonies, the Italian Concession of Tientsin (Tianjin), earned after the Boxers' Rebellion. Manera's men, by now around (in a very approx. estimate) 10000, reached by feet Tientsin from Vladivostok, and finally communicated their endeavour to Rome via telegram in 1918. Manera continued to oversee the location and extraction of Italians in Russia from Tientsin, and organized some of the men he already saved in a personal army, the Legione Redenta di Siberia, which counted approx. 2500 soldiers, and transformed it from a group of ragtag former cannon fodder to an highly trained unit.

    This until the Bolsheviks attacked the Transiberian Railway, endangering Manera's work. Manera and the Legion fought for the following year defending the Railway successfully. In 1920, Manera and the Irredenti finally managed to get to Italy. He got a medal and some honor, but he wasn't paraded much, because the Royalist establishment disliked that he basically built a personal army formed by man ready to die for him and that saw him as their father, because they just dealt with someone similar...D'Annunzio himself. So you can see why I think it would be interesting to see how Cosma Manera would fare coming back to an Italy governed by the man the old Kingdom thought was similar to him by his deeds. I'd think he could have a moure flamboyant career, since D'Annunzio would probably love what Manera did, and found it exemplary of who the Carnarist Man should be. The main problem in using him is that I don't know how much information about him is gatherable in English language. I found his story due to a blogger and journalist I've followed for some years by now, which sometimes takes interest in stories of this kind, and when he researches something he's able to find the most remote and rich sources. This is his article about the story of Cosma Manera. Unfortunately, it's in Italian.

    In the article he quoted also another interesting charachter who crossed his path with Manera, Andrea Compatangelo, who were an immigrant in Russia and worked in commerce in the town of Samara. When the Civil War started he discovered that some irredenti were detained near Samara, so he dressed himself as a military officer, convinced the guards that he was the representative of "a great western power" and obtained the release of the prisoners, to which he then gave uniforms stitched in Samara and organized them in a fake army called "Brigata Savoia". They stole a train and moved east on the Transiberian Railway, and by every stop they joined whites and the Czechoslovak Legion in fighting, slowly gaining a reputation. They changed their train for another one, this time armoured and with a machine gun, and they took on two Russian nurses to help with injuries. They arrived at Krasnojarsk, then in a state of anarchy and power vacuum, and established a military dictatorship which united Bolsheviks and SRs for a month and a half. During this time they learned about Cosma Manera and the Legione Redenta, so they departed for Tientsin. They went on, and with their train they entered Manchuria. Chinese authorities had some problem with this, but Compatangelo bullshitted his way through this with threats of "diplomatic incident". He finally reached Tientsin just before the Legione left to defend the Transiberian Railway, saluted Cosma Manera, gave him the men he led there (approx. 300), and disappeared from history.

    Another interesting guy my man did some digging on related is Emilio Ferraris, one of the most loyal men of Cosma Manera. He was an Ardito during WWI, and probably met Manera on the frontlines, and they likely bonded. Ferraris followed Manera to Russia, and went through a lot of shit. He fought in Siberia alongside White forces, and had enough adventures to fill a comic series. At the beginning of 1920 he asked Cosma Manera the permission for an extremely dangerous solo mission: going west to Moscow to recover his wife, who remained there. An incredible story: he witnessed the delivery of Admiral Kolchak to the Bolsheviks, apparently brokered by a Neapolitan immigrant who reinvented himself as revolutionary in Siberia; convinced the Ceka to let him pass through; getting saved by a group of sailors he and his men befriended on the train when a commissary refused to accept the letter of passage gave by him by the 5th Army; evaded Ceka at Moscow who was waiting for him, and finally got to his wife. The only source on this is a diary and a collection of notes Ferraris personally took of the travel, which the blogger found and read to write the article. Coming back to Italy unluckily he ended up in a spiral of drugs, broke contacts with Manera and will join Fascism. If you want to introduce a new uscocco charachter, kinda like Negrini (I mean the retconned Secondari, you named him Negrini, right?), Ferraris could be a cool non-fictional option which is perfect for the role and about who we know so little he still leaves space for narrative speculation.

3 - On nuclear physics​


  • If I remember well, you once said that nuclear physics isn't really going to develop ITTL at all, to limit to the minimum the possibility for nuclear weapons to be developed. May I offer two points of constructive criticism?

    1. Nuclear physics could be a rich feature for Carnarist Italy. IOTL Italy has been an important seat for early research, due to the activities of the Via Panisperna boys, an incredible gang of young minds, like Enrico Fermi, Ettore Majorana, Edoardo Amaldi, Bruno Pontecorvo and Emilio Segrè. They studied the nucleus and its properties bombarding stable elements with neutrons, and Fermi and Majorana wrote the fundamental theory on beta decay. The basic fundamentals of nuclear reactor physics were formulated there. The end of this was signed by the Racial Laws of 1938; Fermi had a Jewish wife, so when he went to Stockholm to retire the Nobel Prize he departed for America instead than going home. Same thing by Segrè, a Jew himself, Pontecorvo and others. Majorana disappeared and to this day his whereabouts are object of legends. The only major boy remaining in Italy was Amaldi, who rebuilt Italian physics post-WWII, and became one of the Founding Fathers of CERN. They were some of the greatest geniuses this land has ever produced, and I'm not underselling it. Enrico Fermi was the leader of the group in Project Manhattan that developed the first functional nuclear reactor, and is one of the most influential scientists of the XXth Century. Majorana is, in Italian popular culture, the Italian Tesla for consideration of his genius, for how much he comes up in pop science speculations and for the conspiracy theories around his figure. I don't know how a continuing Italian nuclear research program led by the Panisperna boys would evolve, for the simple fact that the resources Project Manhattan needed were enormous, but it still could be a cool thing.

    2. If you want to still remove nuclear physics from the equation, you have to think how. I think that if you really want to push forward the entire branch of physics the turning point is the discovery of the neutron. The concept of nuclear fission and its energetic and military applications have kinda been there since we started to understand the atom and the nucleus, but before the neutron theoretically nuclear fission faced the same problem we have with nuclear fusion today: the only subatomic particles we knew where electrons (which we knew were too light to cause fission) and protons, which are electropositive. Knowing that protons stay in the nucleus, we already knew the nucleus was positive, so bombarding a nucleus with protons means bombarding a positive charge with a positive charge, so we'll have a repulsive Coulomb force. And since Coulomb force is inversely proportional to the squared distance between the charges, having the protons to hit the nucleus needs a shitton of energy, making the whole process inefficient and difficult to obtain. The neutron changed everything. Neutrons do not have electric charge, so there is no electrostatic force acting on them when used to bombard nuclei. Which means they can easily hit nuclei. And with the right nucleus, an hit will cause a fission, which will free other neutrons, causing a chain reaction. Leo Szilard, one of the greatest nuclear physicist of all time, thought all this before the conference he attended where the discovery of the neutron was presented even finished, by how trivial these consequences of the existence of the neutron are. Pushing a bit forward the discovery of the neutron may be possible, but it's not easy. Another "softer" solution may be related to the circumstances of the next big war; the Project Manhattan worked because the United States had the massive resources to sustain it (and a lot of nations didn't), they were ready to spend them, and they had basically a "world selection" of the best nuclear physicists in the world, due to the massive number of refugees from Europe. If the ITTL war keeps the USA uninterested and unwilling to spend so much on such a project, if there isn't a "brain drain" from places like Germany, Italy, Hungary etc. you could push forward the development of nuclear weapons for a good amount of time, because no power would have the means and the resolution to devlop them during the war, and without a physical demonstration of the incommensurable power of the atomic bomb development in peacetime will be sluggish. So, maybe a combination of the two options is maybe the best: for some reason to be better determined, the discovery of the neutron is delayed by, say, five years, and subsequent pre-Manhattan developments in nuclear physics and nuclear reactor theory will evolve in the same frame of time as OTL, 5 years after. The war happens, if the conditions are as I described no one develop the bomb, those who start to invest in it put only an inadequate amount of funding and by the end of the war no one has the bomb, or even is close to it. In peacetime nuclear research proceed, reactors start to be developed, but military research is going to be slow because without a pressing urge or a physical demonstration of the power of the bomb most government are wary of wasting so much money on a single, wunderwaffe project.

Huff, that's it. I hope to not have exaggerated! Tell me if I brought useful input!
 
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