Of Droughts And Flooding Rains: The Seven Nations of Australia

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  1. Spens1 Well-Known Member

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    Ah, so overall a bit worse than otl XD

    But seriously was it the federal government who pushed that through. Also how did that effect politics in that state, you mentioned the country party never really recovering there, but did the Nats take advantage of that.
     
  2. Threadmarks: Turkey's Expansion, 1919 - 1941

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    Nazi analogue? What Nazi analogue?

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  3. SaveAtlacamani Napoleon the Red Donor

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    Sorry, but who is Joh? Some Australian communist (or far-righter) who I should know? Some singer?
     
  4. Gian Wizard of Watkins Mill

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    Presumably Joh Bjelke-Petersen (done to death in this thread already btw)
     
  5. KaiserEmu Emperor and Autocrat of all the Emus, etc.

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    Yep. It’s Job Bjelke-Petersen, who IOTL was a woefully corrupt Premier of Queensland who held on to power for decades thanks to absurd levels of gerrymandering. ITTL He was a woefully corrupt Premier of Cooksland who held on to power for decades thanks to absurd levels of gerrymandering, while also refusing to enfranchise Aboriginal Australians or give them any rights. He was most famous for trying to drag Cooksland out of the Commonwealth when tensions between him and the federal government reached a head.

    I’m sorry you think it’s been done to death. I was trying to focus on one of the more notable events of Australasian history, of which he was a crucial part. I’m now moving on to bits of Europe, then there’ll be some other bits too. Hopefully that will interest you more.
     
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  6. Gian Wizard of Watkins Mill

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    Well I would love to see more of Kidulia and Portuguese Australia btw.
     
  7. KaiserEmu Emperor and Autocrat of all the Emus, etc.

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    And that comes straight after.
     
  8. Spens1 Well-Known Member

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    Joh-Bjelke Peterson. Basically the closest thing (i can think off of the top of my head) that Australian politics has ever had to a dictator (or at the least, an authoritarian figure).
     
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    Nice to see a timeline that has more of a focus on Oceania, something that doesn't really happen a lot. As a kiwi, I'm curious how Aboriginal and Maori rights went in this timeline.
     
  10. Threadmarks: Great Imperial War

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    The Great Imperial War, also known as simply the Imperial War or the Great War, was a European war that lasted from 28 July 1914 to 26 January 1918. Contemporaneously described as the "war to end all wars", it led to the mobilisation of over 60 million military personnel, making it one of the largest wars in history. Over nine million combatants and seven million civilians died as a result of the war. Military losses were exacerbated by new technological and industrial developments and the tactical stalemate caused by gruelling trench warfare. It was one of the deadliest conflicts in history and precipitated major political changes, including the Revolutions of 1917–1924, in many of the nations involved. Unresolved rivalries at the end of the conflict contributed to the start of the World War around twenty years later.

    On 28 June 1914, Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb Yugoslav nationalist, assassinated the Austro-Hungarian heir Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo, leading to the July Crisis. In response, on 23 July Austria-Hungary issued an ultimatum to Serbia. Serbia's reply failed to satisfy the Austrians, and the two moved to a war footing.

    A network of interlocking alliances enlarged the crisis from a bilateral issue in the Balkans to one involving most of Europe. By 1914, the great powers of Europe were divided into two coalitions: the Triple Entente—consisting of France, Russia and Britain—and the Triple Alliance of Germany, Austria-Hungary and Italy (the Triple Alliance was primarily defensive in nature, allowing Italy to stay out of the war in 1914). Russia felt it necessary to back Serbia, on 25 July issuing orders for the 'period preparatory to war', and after Austria-Hungary shelled the Serbian capital of Belgrade on the 28th, partial mobilisation was approved of the military districts nearest to Austria. General Russian mobilisation was announced on the evening of 30 July; on the 31st, Austria-Hungary and Germany did the same, while Germany demanded Russia demobilise within 12 hours. When Russia failed to comply, Germany declared war on 1 August in support of Austria-Hungary, with Austria-Hungary following suit on 6th; France ordered full mobilisation in support of Russia on 2 August.

    German strategy for a war on two fronts against France and Russia was to concentrate the bulk of its army in the West to defeat France within four weeks, then shift forces to the East before Russia could fully mobilise; this was later known as the Schlieffen Plan. On 2 August, Germany demanded free passage through Belgium, an essential element in achieving a quick victory over France. When this was refused, German forces invaded Belgium early on the morning of 3 August and declared war with France the same day; the Belgian government invoked the 1839 Treaty of London and in compliance with its obligations under this, Britain declared war on Germany on 4 August. On 12 August, Britain and France also declared war on Austria-Hungary. The war was fought in and drew upon each powers' colonial empires as well, spreading the conflict across the globe. The Entente and its allies would eventually become known as the Allied Powers, while the grouping of Austria-Hungary, Germany and the Ottomans would become known as the Central Powers.

    The German advance into France was halted at the Battle of the Marne and by the end of 1914, the Western Front settled into a battle of attrition, marked by a long series of trench lines that changed little until 1917. In November 1914, the Ottoman Empire joined the Central Powers, opening fronts in the Caucasus, Mesopotamia and the Sinai Peninsula. In 1915, Italy joined the Allied Powers, and the Allies commenced an attack on the Dardanelles Straits that eventually led to the capture of Constantinople, and the surrender of the Ottoman Empire. In the aftermath of the Ottoman Empire's fall, Bulgaria joined the Allied Powers and another assault began northwards toward Austria-Hungary.

    The 1917 May Rising in Austria-Hungary saw the collapse of order in the fragile state, resulting in the signing of the Armistice of Trieste on 8 June 1917. On 9 November 1917, mutinies began around the German Empire, ultimately becoming a fully-fledged revolution. With its allies defeated, revolution at home, and the military no longer willing to fight, Germany signed an armistice on 26 January 1918.

    World War I was a significant turning point in the political, cultural, economic, and social climate of the world. As a result of the war, the German Empire, Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire ceased to exist. Revolutions and uprisings in the aftermath of the war became widespread, being mainly socialist or anti-colonial in nature. The Big Three (Britain, France and Russia) imposed their terms in a series of treaties agreed at the 1918 Paris Peace Conference. The German Civil War ultimately saw the establishment of a nationalist military junta in control of Germany, and the rise of Halit Atlı saw the world plunged into an even more destructive war, but the peace treaties in addition to various agreements during the war also transformed borders throughout Europe, Asia and the Middle East, with repercussions that still echo to this day.
     
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  11. Threadmarks: Political Parties of Kidulia

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    I haven't forgotten this, don't worry!

    I'm currently working on an infobox for Poland and a graphic about indigenous rights, and then I'm planning to focus on Kidulia in detail. In the meantime, though, here is a list of Kidulia's political parties.

    While the left-right division still exists in Kidulia, its politics has historically been defined by its relationship with other Indonesian-speaking nations, most notably Nusantara, with whom they have a long-standing rivalry. Thus, governments have historically switched between Pan-Red (advocating for Indonesian unity and a single Indonesian nation, often at the expense of the Indigenous population) and Pan-Black (advocating for Kidulia first) coalitions.

    Serikat Nasional (National Union): The main right-wing and pan-red party. Historically Kidulia's governing party for many decades during the period of National Guidance, and historically authoritarian, but now reformed a bit to be a stock-standard centre-right party advocating for Indonesian unity.

    Partai Keadilan Rakyat (People's Justice Party): Kidulia's dominant left-wing, pan-black party. Served as the main opposition for many years, now supporting national unity and the elimination of inequality between Kidulia's many cultures. Generally closer to the other Australian nations, rather than the Indonesian ones.

    Partai Komunis Kidulia (Communist Party of Kidulia): Very left-wing. Their belief in the need for revolution means they are a part of the pan-red coalition. In fact, the PKK has historically participated in governments with the SN. Probably the most aggressive, foreign policy-wise.

    Berrkmirriŋu: Indigenous rights party. Name derived from a Yolŋu word meaning roughly "many people". Its main support base comes from the Yolŋu people, who have interbred with Indonesian migrants, becoming a distinct ethnic group in their own right. They are officially an indigenous population though, and retain many of their old customs. As the largest Indigenous group in Kidulia, they dominate the party (in addition, some desert tribes don't even know there are elections, let alone vote in them). Economically left-wing, and a member of the pan-black coalition. Their social views are informed by tribal customs.

    Oranjepartij (Orange Party): Regionalist party for the Dutch-speaking population of Diemensland (OTL Kimberley). Advocates primarily for that population and the most outspoken member of the pan-black coalition. Socially conservative, but economically interventionist.

    Any questions? Requests?
     
  12. Threadmarks: Poland

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    Here's Poland.

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    Poland (Polish: Polska), sometimes inaccurately called the Kingdom of Poland, is a country located in Central Europe. It covers 308,873 square kilometres, and has a largely temperate seasonal climate. With a population of approximately 47.5 million, Poland is one of the most populous states of Europe. Poland's capital and largest metropolis is Warsaw. Other major cities include Kraków, Łódź, Wrocław/Breslau, Poznań, and Lwów. The country is bordered to the west by Germany, to the north by German East Prussia and Livonia, to the east by Russia, and to the south by Bohemia.

    The establishment of a Polish state can be traced back to A.D. 966, when Mieszko I, ruler of the realm coextensive with the territory of present-day Poland, converted to Christianity. The Kingdom of Poland was founded in 1025, and in 1569 it cemented its longstanding political association with the Grand Duchy of Lithuania by signing the Union of Lublin. This union formed the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, one of the largest (about 1 million km2) and most populous countries of 16th- and 17th-century Europe, with a uniquely liberal political system which adopted Europe's first written national constitution, the Constitution of 3 May 1791.

    Over 100 years after the Partitions of Poland at the end of the 18th century, Poland had limited independence restored by Russian Tsar Michael II, as the Grand Duchy of Poland, afforded almost full independence in internal matters, but still tied to the Russian Empire in foreign and economic matters. Poland was a key battleground of the Eastern Front of the Western Theatre of the World War, in which millions of Poles died on either side of the conflict. In 1948, the Polish Spring saw a revolt against the new Orthodox government of Russia, and proclaimed its independence as a Republic. Poland fell into the French sphere as a willing partner during the Silent War, and in 1989, adopted a French noble as its monarch following the October Crisis, which saw the reintroduction of full democracy to Poland for the first time in centuries.

    Poland is a developed market and regional power. Significant investment by France has seen the nation achieve a very high rank on the Human Development Index, with the most powerful economy in Central Europe. Poland is a developed country, maintaining a high-income economy along with very high standards of living, life quality, safety, education and political and economic freedom. Poland is a founding member of the Union Pact, the Visegrád Group and the Union of Nations, and a member state of the OECD.


    What do you think?
     
  13. Threadmarks: Australasian Indigenous History

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    Here's the next one. As you can see, some parts of TTL's indigenous history is better, some bits worse.

    Note 1: "Indigenous" is the term used to refer to all native peoples of Australasia. "Aboriginal" is used to refer to mainland tribes, and "Maori" used to refer to the New Zealand tribes.

    Note 2: "Wurrunjirri" is TTL's anglicisation of Wurundjeri, the main Aboriginal nation around OTL Melbourne.

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    Any questions about this?
    I'm thinking I'll do either Costa Norte or Kidulia next. Are there any specific parts you're interested in?
     
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  14. TheKutKu Well-Known Member

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    Nice! Just to give more context, what is the indigenous population size in autralasia (Maori and aboriginal separately) and in other countries?
     
  15. ZeSteel Well-Known Member

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    Just a question, how is Cook still considered to be the first European to discover Australia? I would assume the Dutch and Portuguese states would at least increase the fame of their earlier explorers.

    Was there still the Tasmanian genocide in this timeline? I assume that would get at least a mention in a topic about the indigenous peoples of Australasia.
     
  16. Bennett Human Time-Waster

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    Speaking of Aboriginals and the Tasmanian Genocide, how were/are the Native Americans being treated?
     
  17. KaiserEmu Emperor and Autocrat of all the Emus, etc.

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    The Aboriginal population of Australasia is about 620,000, and the Maori population is about 870,000. (These are both numbers produced from IRL statistics. The large number of Maoris surprised me a little.)

    Cook is by no means considered to be the first European to discover Australia. As the graphic says, Cook is known as a) the first European to chart, in detail, New Zealand and the east coast of Australia and b) the man who claimed said lands for Britain. The first European to sight Australia is generally considered to be Willem Janszoon.

    There was still a Tasmanian genocide :frown:, although not quite as bad. There remain about 50 'full-blooded' Tasmanians in the country today. It is taught, especially in Tasmania, but it is not som much the focus of Australasian history, which covers Eastern Australia and New Zealand mainly.

    Native Americans are treated more or less the same in the early years before the butterflies hit. In later years, conditions were slightly better than IOTL, but by no means good. The signing of the Final Settlement Treaty in Australasia brought up the issue in the US again, as it is now the only Anglophone nation not to have a treaty or agreement with its original inhabitants. Native rights are, surprisingly, best in the South, where, faced with a choice of giving rights to African-Americans or Native Americans, most states chose the latter, and never got around to mistreating them again.
     
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  18. TheKutKu Well-Known Member

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    So if i understand correctly the aboriginal population outside of australasia is much higher but the one inside Australia is about the same/slightly higher than IRL?

    One would think many would emigrate to australasia
     
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