Obama/Bayh or Obama/Kaine

In 1988, the Republican Party was still fairly moderate and centrist - most Americans identified as Republicans, and while yes, the Reagan Revolution was taking hold, the party's conservative wing didn't really begin to take full control for a few years.

Whereas the Democrats, for much of the seventies and eighties, had been much farther left than we could probably imagine today. Clinton was pretty important to moving them more center while the Republican Revolution in 1994 moved Republicans further right.

I'm aware of what went on back then.

I was ridiculing his notion that Dukakis was a fringe-leftist, and his assertion that Obama would have been a Republican "just because."
 
I'm aware of what went on back then.

I was ridiculing his notion that Dukakis was a fringe-leftist, and his assertion that Obama would have been a Republican "just because."

My apologies then. I'm not really sure where to place Dukakis myself.
 
Neither Bayh or Kaine were viable running mates.

Just as the hard right in the GOP rejects any candidate who doesn't toe the line, so the hard left does in the Democratic party
Which is why Obama picked someone who pushed for the Iraq War and stacked the deck for war in hearings even more than the Republican House.
 
I'm aware of what went on back then.

I was ridiculing his notion that Dukakis was a fringe-leftist, and his assertion that Obama would have been a Republican "just because."



Obama is very much a centrist today, even taking some of the bush policy on a different level. Some far-left people even thinks he's too conservative. I thought this was a widely know facts.
 
My apologies then. I'm not really sure where to place Dukakis myself.

Dukakis himself said that election was about "competence, not ideology." Maybe that's what he truly thought, or maybe he wanted to avoid being called the L word. If he came across at all as a paragon of left-wing virtue, and it was hard to tell with his reserved personality, how much of that was genuine and how much was the work of Atwater's campaign?

Obama is very much a centrist today, even taking some of the bush policy on a different level. Some far-left people even thinks he's too conservative. I thought this was a widely know facts.

Warfare isn't the exclusive domain of American conservatives; Obama's rhetoric on the middle class, the wealthy, and taxes are anathema to the right-wing; and one fringe of one ideological side calling someone something else doesn't necessarily make it so at all. I thought those were widely known facts.
 
Obama's liberal for a mainstream American politician, and is left of center for the US, so a moderate would help him.

How would Bayh or Kaine fare against Palin in the debate?
 
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