"Novi avion" vs NATO

grdja83

Yes, there is good reason to believe that at least one B-2 was detected and engaged. One hit, or at least close enough miss for shrapnel to damage the plane is also possible. Whether it crashlanded somewhere in Bosnia or Croatia, or it managed to limp to a airfield is harder to tell.
 
TheMann

TheMann

The Avion was an interesting project, but against the NATO forces, its gonna get shot up in a right hurry. The Serbians should have focused their efforts on SAMs, because those actually DID do something. Anybody crazy enough to take off probably wasn't gonna come home, and sure enough a lot of J-21, J-22 and MiG-29 aircraft got shot to pieces.

Would the Avoin have helped that? If anything, only a little. As others point out, the Serbs needed an equalizer that they didn't have - AWACS. NATO had them, the Serbs didn't.
 
TheMann

TheMann

grdja83 said:
Yes, there is good reason to believe that at least one B-2 was detected and engaged. One hit, or at least close enough miss for shrapnel to damage the plane is also possible. Whether it crashlanded somewhere in Bosnia or Croatia, or it managed to limp to a airfield is harder to tell.
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No B-2s were ever hit to the best of my knowledge. The F-117 was, yes, but the B-2 is a fragile thing, and even a miss would have resulted in its radar signature growing like mad, and you have to know that the SFRY Air Forces would want to down a bomber.
 

FlyingDutchman

TheMann said:
No B-2s were ever hit to the best of my knowledge. The F-117 was, yes, but the B-2 is a fragile thing, and even a miss would have resulted in its radar signature growing like mad, and you have to know that the SFRY Air Forces would want to down a bomber.
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True.

NIK PARMEN and those Serbs are pretty much talking out of their rear body orifice.

I watched 15 seconds of that youtube clip and a few things aren't right and don't seem logical;
- The B-2's are all stationed at Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri and usually operate from there too, during the Kosovo war they flew non-stop to Kosovo and back from Missouri and weren't stationed in for example Italy. Despite that, that Serb on the video claims initially a few and later more B-2's were brought over for bombing.
- even slightly damaged it would be very hard for an aircraft to make that returnflight to Missouri.
- when a B-2 had a crash, it was big news and the USAF didn't try to keep/didn't succeed in keeping it under wraps.
- there are only 20 of them (used to be 21). It would be almost as hard as trying to hide losing a CVN would be.

The idea of NATO losing heaps of aircraft or the States losing a strategic bomber without anyone knowing is about as ridiculous as the myth of the British losing HMS Invincible during the Falklands and managing to hide it with a clever switching game. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?146196-*THE*-Harrier-Carrier-Thread
When the Russians lost a strategic bomber over Georgia, in a much more chaotic and less surveillanced environment it was known worldwide in hours.
 
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