Northern Ireland in the Irish Free State

what would happen if Northern Ireland hadn't been broken off of Ireland and had been made part of the Irish Free State in 1921?
 

celt

Banned
The Unionists backed up by ex British army officers and men take Dublin by the end of the year.
Then the GB has to retake Ireland and try sort the mess out.
 
Bloody civil war and ethnic cleansing probably resulting in British intervention and a similar to OTL division. There were very good reasons why Ulster remained separate.
 
The Unionists backed up by ex British army officers and men take Dublin by the end of the year.
Then the GB has to retake Ireland and try sort the mess out.

wow really? :eek: I never heard that they have that kind of force or will to go that far, also would the Brits be willing to be pulled back in?
 

celt

Banned
wow really? :eek: I never heard that they have that kind of force or will to go that far, also would the Brits be willing to be pulled back in?
This is what they had in 1912

Ulster Volunteers

Of course they would have lost a lot of men in the First World War(but so did the south)but the survivors would have been battle hardened and their have been no sortage of volunteers from the mainland especially from western Scotland.

Edit I think the goverment would have no choice but to intervine,I could have been jumping the gun about them taking Dublin,they might just be content holding on to Ulster and kicking out all the Catholics.
 

Cook

Banned
Bloody civil war and ethnic cleansing probably resulting in British intervention and a similar to OTL division. There were very good reasons why Ulster remained separate.



Yes. The deal was done because the north would have been too much for the new Irish state to swallow. The only people not to see that were fanatics.
 

mowque

Banned
The Unionists backed up by ex British army officers and men take Dublin by the end of the year.
Then the GB has to retake Ireland and try sort the mess out.

Bloody civil war and ethnic cleansing probably resulting in British intervention and a similar to OTL division. There were very good reasons why Ulster remained separate.

My TL explores such a chain of events.
 

mowque

Banned
the one in your sig?

Yeah, but I haven't posted about Ireland yet.

Basically, it goes something like this. UK is neutral in *WW1. This leads to a rather genours Home Rule bill being passed. Ireland is part of the Commonwealth ( and the RN gets to use several important Irish ports for decades). Ireland also gets Ulster. That turns out to be a mistake. The whole place goes up in flames (and a scandal breaks out back in London as is it appears some Tories are actually funding the Protestant rebels).

The Orangeists fight for years, and the southern half of Ireland is really out of there league. Finally, they call in the British to come help them. They manage to settle things down through a series of harsh repressions coupled with volunteer emigration to Australia plus getting some compromises from Dublin. All in all, quite bloody.
 
Top