NOOBWI: Charlemange

What if Charlesmangie's Empire wasn't broken up by his will? Whose side would they be on in WWI?

OOC: Actually based on a old post I found.
 
I think they would side with the Central Powers, because William III would want to ally with the French, because after Napoleon invaded they didn't like teh Frenchees. But then again, maybe they would side with the allies, because the United Kingdom was an enemy of the Germany, and the enemy of your enemy is my friend.

The interesting thing would be: once Hitler takes power, would he attack France? Or would he support the Communists, Bourbons, or Bonapartists insted?
 

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What if Charlesmangie's Empire wasn't broken up by his will? Whose side would they be on in WWI?

OOC: Actually based on a old post I found.

Even if Charlemagnes' Empire wasn't broken up after his death I have a hard time seeing it survive to the 20th century. And if it did, would there be a WW1, I mean Empires like Germany, France, Italy and Austria would not exist. In other words if Charlemagne's Empire wasn't Central Power, there would be no Central Power and thereby no war. This is like asking which side Djingis Khan's Empire or Alexander's Empire would have in a conflict hudreds of years later, without rethinking these hundreds of years, how they would look like with a certain Empire still existing.
 
Even if Charlemagnes' Empire wasn't broken up after his death I have a hard time seeing it survive to the 20th century. And if it did, would there be a WW1, I mean Empires like Germany, France, Italy and Austria would not exist. In other words if Charlemagne's Empire wasn't Central Power, there would be no Central Power and thereby no war. This is like asking which side Djingis Khan's Empire or Alexander's Empire would have in a conflict hudreds of years later, without rethinking these hundreds of years, how they would look like with a certain Empire still existing.

OOC: You don't know what a NOOBWI is, I gather...

IC: They would join with the Entente, of course, in support of the Reconquista.
 
What if Charlesmangie's Empire wasn't broken up by his will? Whose side would they be on in WWI?

Since the Neustrians won the civil war, I guess that sort of post-hoc means that the Empire was on their side.

If it had gone the other way, at least we wouldn't have those million tedious 'Austrasia shall rise again' TLs, but we'd probably just have 'Neustria shall rise again' instead.
 
Would charlesmanges empire join the war in iraq? i bet that he would, hes not a wimp like the surrendermonkey frences!
 
Even if Charlemagnes' Empire wasn't broken up after his death I have a hard time seeing it survive to the 20th century. And if it did, would there be a WW1, I mean Empires like Germany, France, Italy and Austria would not exist. In other words if Charlemagne's Empire wasn't Central Power, there would be no Central Power and thereby no war. This is like asking which side Djingis Khan's Empire or Alexander's Empire would have in a conflict hudreds of years later, without rethinking these hundreds of years, how they would look like with a certain Empire still existing.

OOC: This is a NOOBWI, where we all pretend to be stupid noobs who have no idea at all how history or alternate history works. I'm well aware of the stupidity in my first post, it was on purpose.
 
Guys, you have it all wrong!

Charlemagne built the Roman Empire! So obviously he would support the Central Powers. Of course, there was the Black Death that killed everyone in Europe, so I don't think WW1 will happen unless Marco Polo can bring the Antidote from China in time.

This means that if Charlemagne had survived, Europe would have run over, by the Angles and the Saxons from England, and Europe would probably be one giant East Anglia for them.

Now you still have the Otto Mans' Empire, led by Otto von Bismarck, which will reunify Germany and destroy the Roman Empire later on, with or without Charlemagne, or his son, Fredrick Barbarossa. So, unless you can get rid of the Otto Man Empire, there will still be some kind of German nation later on.

You are going to have to do something larger than that to change WW1--I mean, WW0 pretty much caused WW1 with the sinking of that ship, the Bismarck, and the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York. Now, if you are going to stop WW1, you need Benito Mussolini of the UK and Harry Truman of Germany to give Lett Land and Fin Land to Po Land. Instead, Po Land started WW1 because its neighbors in Deutsch Land wouldn't give them that city, Mont-St. Michel, to them.

So, you have many causes for war, but I still think that Charlemagne's Roman Empire would have been wiped out by the Black Death because Marco Polo would not have left his hometown of Bucharest.

I can only hope that President Turtledove makes good on that Fluoridation policy...
 
FOoolz, I tell yuo!!1 Denmakr pwnz j00 all! Their viknigs can raid your bases from anywhere. Ph34r the great axes*! Axes can beat anything, especially the froggy frences!

*Think of axes as katanas.
 
Guys, you have it all wrong!

Charlemagne built the Roman Empire! So obviously he would support the Central Powers. Of course, there was the Black Death that killed everyone in Europe, so I don't think WW1 will happen unless Marco Polo can bring the Antidote from China in time.

This means that if Charlemagne had survived, Europe would have run over, by the Angles and the Saxons from England, and Europe would probably be one giant East Anglia for them.

Now you still have the Otto Mans' Empire, led by Otto von Bismarck, which will reunify Germany and destroy the Roman Empire later on, with or without Charlemagne, or his son, Fredrick Barbarossa. So, unless you can get rid of the Otto Man Empire, there will still be some kind of German nation later on.

You are going to have to do something larger than that to change WW1--I mean, WW0 pretty much caused WW1 with the sinking of that ship, the Bismarck, and the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York. Now, if you are going to stop WW1, you need Benito Mussolini of the UK and Harry Truman of Germany to give Lett Land and Fin Land to Po Land. Instead, Po Land started WW1 because its neighbors in Deutsch Land wouldn't give them that city, Mont-St. Michel, to them.

So, you have many causes for war, but I still think that Charlemagne's Roman Empire would have been wiped out by the Black Death because Marco Polo would not have left his hometown of Bucharest.

I can only hope that President Turtledove makes good on that Fluoridation policy...

OMG Carlemange wud not join teh Nazis in WW1 lol!
 
And the franch empir wud colonies America(sp?) so it wuld be the gretes powr in ww2, only with bettre fud this wuld totaly rawk! An presidant Jorge W. de la Shruberie wuld kick califfate a$$ even mor than otl and it wud be te frank empie is ur specil relashenship and gettin a$$raped by teh US, not teh kidney pie eatin surendur monikeys
 
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