NO Zhukov

Just say that in Stalins purges Zhukov gets knocked off, how would this affect defence of Leningrad, counter-attack at Moscow and Stalingrad
 
Just say that in Stalins purges Zhukov gets knocked off, how would this affect defence of Leningrad, counter-attack at Moscow and Stalingrad
It depends who emerges in his stead. If you get perpetual screw ups like Buddeny and Timoshenko then you get somewhat worse performance than otl (it should be noted the Zhukov wasted a lot of men and operation mars was one of the most disasterous battles in the history of modern war, with the Germans knocking out almost two thousand tanks and inflicting casualties at a ratio approaching 10 to 1)
If you get more competent guys who don't waste men they do somewhat better (Chuikov, Vatuin or Rokkosovsky would be possibilities)
 
It depends who emerges in his stead. If you get perpetual screw ups like Buddeny and Timoshenko then you get somewhat worse performance than otl (it should be noted the Zhukov wasted a lot of men and operation mars was one of the most disasterous battles in the history of modern war, with the Germans knocking out almost two thousand tanks and inflicting casualties at a ratio approaching 10 to 1)
If you get more competent guys who don't waste men they do somewhat better (Chuikov, Vatuin or Rokkosovsky would be possibilities)

Or possibly Shtern, apparently Zhukov was a factor in him being purged in the first place.
 

Old Airman

Banned
Although an extremely capable general, Zhukov was far from being a Saint Saviour of Mother Russia the propaganda made him. Stalin had a whole stable of very capable generals (Konev, Rokossovsky, Malinovsky, Vatutin, Chernyakhovsky, Vasilevsky etc., the list goes on and on). Someone would replace G.K.
 
Well, a far bigger butterfly than having a less capable general when there could have been a more capable one is the outcome of the border dispute of 1939. If you get an incompetent screw up running the show there, he may well let the Japanese stick around there for far longer than OTL. Among the big changes resulting is a delayed/averted Pearl Harbor, and troops not available to fight the Germans because they are fighting the Japanese.
 

Eurofed

Banned
Just say that in Stalins purges Zhukov gets knocked off, how would this affect defence of Leningrad, counter-attack at Moscow and Stalingrad

Offing Zhukov in the purges has greater butterflies than you may think. Without him, there are rather good chances of Japan achieving a stalemate in the 1939 Russo-Japanese undeclared conflict. This would leave Japan confident that it may achieve victory in Manchuria with a little more preparation, and much more willing to join Barbarossa in 1941.
 

Wolfpaw

Banned
Offing Zhukov in the purges has greater butterflies than you may think. Without him, there are rather good chances of Japan achieving a stalemate in the 1939 Russo-Japanese undeclared conflict. This would leave Japan confident that it may achieve victory in Manchuria with a little more preparation, and much more willing to join Barbarossa in 1941.
Eh, the Soviet success against the Japanese was more thanks to Shtern than to Zhukov, who just happened to be a noteworthy divisional commander. The reason Georgy boy gets all the credit is because Stalin had Shtern purged in '41 and Zhukov claimed all of the glory for himself in his memoirs.
 
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