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At least he didn't fall off a horse and break his neck (the method so often employed to remove an inconvenient actor from the stage of history.
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Lost Freeway
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OVER 600 DEAD IN JAPAN MID-AIR COLLISION
Japan Times, February 1, 2001
Two Japanese airliners collided near the city of Yaizu yesterday, resulting in the deaths of all onboard both planes.
Japan Airlines Flight 907, a Boeing 747 en route from Tokyo to Naha, collided with Japan Airlines Flight 958, a McDonnell-Douglas DC-10 en route to Tokyo from Busan, South Korea. A total of 677 people were on the flights. All were confirmed to have died in the collision, surpassing the Tenerife Disaster as the deadliest aircraft accident in history.
The two planes came down in the Pacific Ocean close to Yaizu. The recovery of debris and human remains is ongoing. Divers have been dispatched to find the black boxes.
Japan Times, February 1, 2001
Two Japanese airliners collided near the city of Yaizu yesterday, resulting in the deaths of all onboard both planes.
Japan Airlines Flight 907, a Boeing 747 en route from Tokyo to Naha, collided with Japan Airlines Flight 958, a McDonnell-Douglas DC-10 en route to Tokyo from Busan, South Korea. A total of 677 people were on the flights. All were confirmed to have died in the collision, surpassing the Tenerife Disaster as the deadliest aircraft accident in history.
The two planes came down in the Pacific Ocean close to Yaizu. The recovery of debris and human remains is ongoing. Divers have been dispatched to find the black boxes.
Lost Freeway
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US NAVY CLOSES THE SALE OF FORRESTAL
Washington Post, September 3, 2001
Today the United States Navy announced that it has finalized the sale of USS Forrestal to the USS Forrestal Museum Inc.
The old carrier is most famous for being the ship on which President McCain briefly served during Vietnam. McCain was onboard Forrestal when she suffered a fire in July 1967 that left 134 men dead. McCain, who was in his A-4 Skyhawk on the flight deck when the fire started, narrowly escaped.
Washington Post, September 3, 2001
Today the United States Navy announced that it has finalized the sale of USS Forrestal to the USS Forrestal Museum Inc.
The old carrier is most famous for being the ship on which President McCain briefly served during Vietnam. McCain was onboard Forrestal when she suffered a fire in July 1967 that left 134 men dead. McCain, who was in his A-4 Skyhawk on the flight deck when the fire started, narrowly escaped.
At least he didn't fall off a horse and break his neck (the method so often employed to remove an inconvenient actor from the stage of history.
Jeff Greenfield used that in a book years ago - i think it was called the Peoples choice- basically a popular conservative candidate dies after election day but before the electoral college votes (the real vote) leaving a moderate Dan Qyale like character the unpopular nominee facing a revolt in the party.
Lost Freeway
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The Horror Begins
"Eh..... We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you'll be okay. We are returning to the airport"
Transmission from American Airlines Flight 11, 08:21, September 11, 2001
"This just in. You are looking at obviously a very disturbing live shot there. That is the World Trade Center, and we have unconfirmed reports this morning that a plane has crashed into one of the towers of the World Trade Center. CNN Center right now is just beginning to work on this story, obviously calling our sources and trying to figure out exactly what happened, but clearly something relatively devastating happening this morning there on the south end of the island of Manhattan. That is once again, a picture of one of the towers of the World Trade Center."
Carol Lin, CNN News
"At the time of the September 11 attacks, President McCain was giving a speech at the dedication of the USS Forrestal Museum in Baltimore. After being informed that two planes had crashed into the World Trade Center, McCain immediately boarded Marine One, which had been parked on the flight deck of Forrestal, and departed for Washington DC. The flight took 13 minutes.
Now, when Marine One attempted to land on the White House lawn, the flight crew-apparently under intense pressure due to the circumstances-botched the final approach and entered a vortex ring state, causing the helicopter to stall and crash. All onboard were killed, including President McCain."
Testimony of former Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld to the Sotomayor Commission, November 29, 2011
MCCAIN KILLED IN HELICOPTER CRASH, VP CHENEY SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT
New York Times, September 11, 2001
"My fellow Americans, I am saddened to announce that President McCain has died in a helicopter crash. So far, no evidence has emerged connecting the crash to the attacks that have just happened to our nation.
Although I never expected to ascend to the highest office in the land under these circumstances, I will do my duty as required of me. Together, we will find the people responsible for the cowardly attack on our people and bring them to justice."
President Richard Cheney's address to the nation, September 11, 2001
"Eh..... We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you'll be okay. We are returning to the airport"
Transmission from American Airlines Flight 11, 08:21, September 11, 2001
"This just in. You are looking at obviously a very disturbing live shot there. That is the World Trade Center, and we have unconfirmed reports this morning that a plane has crashed into one of the towers of the World Trade Center. CNN Center right now is just beginning to work on this story, obviously calling our sources and trying to figure out exactly what happened, but clearly something relatively devastating happening this morning there on the south end of the island of Manhattan. That is once again, a picture of one of the towers of the World Trade Center."
Carol Lin, CNN News
"At the time of the September 11 attacks, President McCain was giving a speech at the dedication of the USS Forrestal Museum in Baltimore. After being informed that two planes had crashed into the World Trade Center, McCain immediately boarded Marine One, which had been parked on the flight deck of Forrestal, and departed for Washington DC. The flight took 13 minutes.
Now, when Marine One attempted to land on the White House lawn, the flight crew-apparently under intense pressure due to the circumstances-botched the final approach and entered a vortex ring state, causing the helicopter to stall and crash. All onboard were killed, including President McCain."
Testimony of former Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld to the Sotomayor Commission, November 29, 2011
MCCAIN KILLED IN HELICOPTER CRASH, VP CHENEY SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT
New York Times, September 11, 2001
"My fellow Americans, I am saddened to announce that President McCain has died in a helicopter crash. So far, no evidence has emerged connecting the crash to the attacks that have just happened to our nation.
Although I never expected to ascend to the highest office in the land under these circumstances, I will do my duty as required of me. Together, we will find the people responsible for the cowardly attack on our people and bring them to justice."
President Richard Cheney's address to the nation, September 11, 2001
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Lost Freeway
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ISLAMIC TERRORISTS ATTACK JAMMU AND KASHMIR STATE GOVERNMENT
Times of India, October 1, 2001
Times of India, October 1, 2001
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Al Gore wins the election and then not much else changes- come 2015 the US economy is still bad (lackof good jobs/open borders/globalism/massive debt) and we have spent $1T on failed M.E. Wars.
AP Washington, 2009
The Supreme Court has granted certiorari, agreeing to consider the "13th Amendment" case against the Cheney Administration. The plaintiffs, Mideast Veterans Against the War, are contending that the Administration's "stop loss" policies constitute involuntary servitude under the 13th Amendment by unilaterally extending soldiers' enlistment contracts past their expiration dates.
A Mideast Veterans Against the War spokesman explained: "Enlistment contracts were typically for six years, three years' active duty followed by three years' reserve duty or four years active and two years reserve. The Cheney Administration is forcing soldiers to serve all six years on active duty, then extending many contracts past their expiration dates. The tempo of deployments has also been increased, giving few soldiers a full year between deployments that are typically 14 months long. The only breaks in this schedule are when a soldier is recovering from wounds."
Note: Mideast Veterans Against the War changed their name from Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan Veterans Against the War when the Cheney Administration invaded Syria.
Sources in the military have been reporting increased desertions and refusals to report for movements overseas. The prevailing mood of these soldiers is "I'll take a Bad Conduct Discharge and loss of all benefits over getting sent back again and again until I'm crippled or killed fighting for Halliburton and Mobil Oil."
Officers are increasing likely to resign their commissions. Some officers are staying in until retirement with 20 years of service but almost none say any longer.
In other news, the US National Debt has been increasing at a rate of between $1 and $2 trillion per year since the War on Terror was annnounced.
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Lost Freeway
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Hey, hey, let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
Though you've still got a good idea of the general direction this TL is headed.
Hey, hey, let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
Okay; it was just an outcome I could forsee.
"Another MEVAW member remarked, 'All those cheerleaders for the war don't have any children or other family members going to the catbox; they're all lawyers or in other posts where the most danger they're in is getting a paper cut. Rich man's war, poor person's fight.'"
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"The men who planned and perpetrated the attacks on September 11 had been in America for a year. It was the failure of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies that allowed them to succeed. To ensure terrorists cannot plot against us under our noses again, I am creating the Department of Domestic Security. If you are a law-abiding American citizen, you have nothing to fear. But those who plot against our nation and our way of life would do well to watch out, because we will find you."
President Cheney, October 3, 2001
President Cheney, October 3, 2001
Lost Freeway
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"The time has come to wage a war against Pakistan and to bomb the militant training camps there. We are running out of patience."
Farooq Abdullah, chief minister of Jammu and Kashmir, October 4, 2001, in a speech commemorating the victims of the October 1 attack.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Jammu_and_Kashmir_legislative_assembly_attack#cite_note-8
Farooq Abdullah, chief minister of Jammu and Kashmir, October 4, 2001, in a speech commemorating the victims of the October 1 attack.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Jammu_and_Kashmir_legislative_assembly_attack#cite_note-8
Lost Freeway
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US BEGINS BOMBING AFGHANISTAN
Wall Street Journal, October 7, 2001
"For far too long, the people of Afghanistan have suffered under a totalitarian regime that purports to carry out the will of their god. Today, we end that tyranny and prepare the way for a free Afghanistan."
President Cheney's address to the nation announcing the invasion of Afghanistan.
Wall Street Journal, October 7, 2001
"For far too long, the people of Afghanistan have suffered under a totalitarian regime that purports to carry out the will of their god. Today, we end that tyranny and prepare the way for a free Afghanistan."
President Cheney's address to the nation announcing the invasion of Afghanistan.
Lost Freeway
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PRESIDENT CHENEY SIGNS PATRIOT ACT INTO LAW
New York Times, October 26, 2001
"This act represents the worst infringement on American freedoms since the Sedition Act of 1918."
Former California governor Jerry Brown
"What weak-willed liberals like Brown fail to understand is that in these extraordinary circumstances, drastic measures must be taken to ensure the security of our nation."
Representative Jim Sensenbrenner(R-WI)
New York Times, October 26, 2001
"This act represents the worst infringement on American freedoms since the Sedition Act of 1918."
Former California governor Jerry Brown
"What weak-willed liberals like Brown fail to understand is that in these extraordinary circumstances, drastic measures must be taken to ensure the security of our nation."
Representative Jim Sensenbrenner(R-WI)
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AMERICAN AIRLINES JET CRASHES IN QUEENS
New York Times, November 12, 2001
An airliner crashed in Southern Queens mere minutes after takeoff, resulting in the deaths of all on board.
American Airlines Flight 587, an Airbus A300, took off from JFK International Airport on a flight from New York City to Santo Domingo with 260 passengers and crew. Less than five minutes later, the plane lied in burning pieces in a Queens neighborhood, all occupants dead.
The crash was witnessed by hundreds of people. Many reported that they saw a fire or explosion on the plane before it hit the ground.
Coming two months after the September 11 attacks, there is widespread fear that the crash of AA587 is an act of terrorism.
"After a preliminary investigation, we now have unassailable evidence that American 587 was brought down by an act of terrorism."
President Cheney, December 19, 2001
"What can you tell us about the investigation of American Airlines Flight 587?"
"Well, terrorism was strongly suspected, so the FBI was sent to assist us in the investigation."
"What did you find?"
"We found the vertical stabilizer in Jamaica Bay, a few miles away from the impact site. Examination of the stabilizer, combined with evidence from the black boxes, revealed that it had separated from the plane during takeoff, causing the pilots to lose control of the aircraft and crash."
"And what did the Cheney Administration do with this information?"
"They came up with a fanciful narrative about a bomb on board exploding and damaging the control systems, causing the plane to yaw and roll uncontrollably until the stabilizer broke off. All evidence contradicting this narrative was suppressed. The real cause of the structural failure-the first officer aggressively working the rudder pedals in response to turbulence encountered during the climb-was explained away as a reaction to the loss of control caused by the bomb."
"How do you explain the witness testimony that seemed to point to a bomb?"
"Human memory isn't perfect. In hectic events like a plane crash, people may either forget or outright fabricate details."
"What was the administration's motive for covering up the truth?"
"Simple. Whipping up public opinion for the President's agenda after 9/11. I believe the idea came from a certain right-wing website called WorldNetDaily, which was aggressively pushing the terrorism angle in the days after the crash. Someone in the administration found the site and its theories and relayed it to Cheney, who decided to run with it."
Testimony of Marion Blakey, former NTSB chairman, to the Sotomayor Commission, November 27, 2011.
The saga of American Airlines Flight 587 represents the betrayal of air safety by politics. By spinning a tale of terrorism and hiding the true cause, the American government prevented investigators from finding crucial flaws in the Airbus A300's design. Had the true cause of the accident been revealved, the crashes of Lufthansa Flight 1911 and Air Transat Flight 499 from similar causes may have been averted.
Mary Schiavo, Irresponsibility: How Politics Trumped Truth In The American 587 Investigation
New York Times, November 12, 2001
An airliner crashed in Southern Queens mere minutes after takeoff, resulting in the deaths of all on board.
American Airlines Flight 587, an Airbus A300, took off from JFK International Airport on a flight from New York City to Santo Domingo with 260 passengers and crew. Less than five minutes later, the plane lied in burning pieces in a Queens neighborhood, all occupants dead.
The crash was witnessed by hundreds of people. Many reported that they saw a fire or explosion on the plane before it hit the ground.
Coming two months after the September 11 attacks, there is widespread fear that the crash of AA587 is an act of terrorism.
"After a preliminary investigation, we now have unassailable evidence that American 587 was brought down by an act of terrorism."
President Cheney, December 19, 2001
"What can you tell us about the investigation of American Airlines Flight 587?"
"Well, terrorism was strongly suspected, so the FBI was sent to assist us in the investigation."
"What did you find?"
"We found the vertical stabilizer in Jamaica Bay, a few miles away from the impact site. Examination of the stabilizer, combined with evidence from the black boxes, revealed that it had separated from the plane during takeoff, causing the pilots to lose control of the aircraft and crash."
"And what did the Cheney Administration do with this information?"
"They came up with a fanciful narrative about a bomb on board exploding and damaging the control systems, causing the plane to yaw and roll uncontrollably until the stabilizer broke off. All evidence contradicting this narrative was suppressed. The real cause of the structural failure-the first officer aggressively working the rudder pedals in response to turbulence encountered during the climb-was explained away as a reaction to the loss of control caused by the bomb."
"How do you explain the witness testimony that seemed to point to a bomb?"
"Human memory isn't perfect. In hectic events like a plane crash, people may either forget or outright fabricate details."
"What was the administration's motive for covering up the truth?"
"Simple. Whipping up public opinion for the President's agenda after 9/11. I believe the idea came from a certain right-wing website called WorldNetDaily, which was aggressively pushing the terrorism angle in the days after the crash. Someone in the administration found the site and its theories and relayed it to Cheney, who decided to run with it."
Testimony of Marion Blakey, former NTSB chairman, to the Sotomayor Commission, November 27, 2011.
The saga of American Airlines Flight 587 represents the betrayal of air safety by politics. By spinning a tale of terrorism and hiding the true cause, the American government prevented investigators from finding crucial flaws in the Airbus A300's design. Had the true cause of the accident been revealved, the crashes of Lufthansa Flight 1911 and Air Transat Flight 499 from similar causes may have been averted.
Mary Schiavo, Irresponsibility: How Politics Trumped Truth In The American 587 Investigation
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