No Spanish-American War

Cuba would need to already be independent. Spain either sells the Philippines to Germany or the Japanese eventually take it by force. Either way they probably end up under Japanese control. US doesn't really have as much of a presence in the Pacific and then there are all the changes with no TR presidency. I'm pretty sure the US annexed Hawaii during the War so that might happen like a year later.
 
Cuba would need to already be independent. Spain either sells the Philippines to Germany or the Japanese eventually take it by force. Either way they probably end up under Japanese control. US doesn't really have as much of a presence in the Pacific and then there are all the changes with no TR presidency. I'm pretty sure the US annexed Hawaii during the War so that might happen like a year later.

The Americans were interested in Luzon and Cuba, the americans once even allied to the rebels til the end of the war, a partition of the philippines is likely in this scenario.

I see the Americans propping the Tagalog republic and later annexing their core territory like Hawaii.
 

Marc

Donor
The Americans were interested in Luzon and Cuba, the americans once even allied to the rebels til the end of the war, a partition of the philippines is likely in this scenario.

I see the Americans propping the Tagalog republic and later annexing their core territory like Hawaii.

Yet, one could easily sketch a much more benign alternate turn of events for an independent Philippines. With no Spanish-American War it's not implausible for William Jennings Bryan to become President of the US and he ran on an anti-imperialist platform. You could see a policy of firm support for a democratic and sovereign Philippine republic, perhaps buttressed by the American Navy getting that crown jewel of a base: Subic Bay, on a 99 year lease.

For those of you folk that are history lepidopterists: The above should make Douglas MacArthur disappear...
 

Kaze

Banned
For about 7 days before annexation by the US - Puerto Rico was a nominally independent nation. So without the war - it is likely that the trend would continue with an independent Puerto Rico.

As for the Philippines - it will be sold to the highest bidder. But come World War One or World War Two - Japan will move in.
 
For about 7 days before annexation by the US - Puerto Rico was a nominally independent nation. So without the war - it is likely that the trend would continue with an independent Puerto Rico.

As for the Philippines - it will be sold to the highest bidder. But come World War One or World War Two - Japan will move in.
It can be pointed out that the Philippines can be partitioned in the purchase, the Americans get Luzon as their base in the east and Visayas and rights for Mindanao to the Germans.

At this point the Philippines' revolution is fracturing, we have the splinter states of Tagalog republic/Katipunan, Republic of Zamboanga and Fed. Republic of Visayas.
 
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Edward IX

Banned
Spain possibly sells the Philippines anyway but to the Germans... or France, whoever offers more. I don't really know what would happen with Cuba, it might be restored with 5 years. But Spain needs to keep the Cubans happy. Puerto Rico might as well remain Spanish until now.

The Pacific holdings might be sold as well. A bigger German presence in the Pacific.

I don't know much about how the Spanish-American War affected later revolutions but that might be butterflied away.
So if the Germans get PI, do the Japanese get it at the end of WWI? Imagine the consequences of that.
 
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