No Southern Strategy: The Political Ramifications of an Alternate 1964 Election

Speaking of which (and feel absolutely free to crucify me for asking this), do you have any idea of a tentative time frame for the actual election update itself?


Idealistically speaking: Friday

Realistically speaking: A Friday.
For the second time, Nofix’s estimate of when the next update will be proves scarily accurate.

Anyways, I’d better go and edit my world leaders omnibus post to give McKeithen another four years!
 
interesting race, I honestly thought that this was probably the first race where the Nat Cons had a chance at the white house, what with the ailenated Conservatives in the Republican party and the non crazy candadite (Bob Dornan seems to be not racist but viruently homophobic, which lets be honest given the time period would not of nessicarrily been a negative factor for their chances at success), i thought they could sweep the south and Plains states and use Cali to elevate them above 270. Its very interesting to me how they won WV even when it elected a Liberal Enviromentalist governor.
 
It's a relief McKeithen won, but I have a scary feeling the NatCons could take the white house in 96.

What's next for NSS? More American politics, or a focus abroad once more?
 
Glad McKeithen won, thought he was a shoe-in back before the Korea update. With his position as basically being an independent’s Democrat and having had few problems and some strong successes in his term, I don’t think even a strong Republican candidate could have beat him.

I’m almost 100% sure that the National Conservatives will get the presidency in 1996. By then, culture war issues will be in full swing and, despite their leanings, I don’t think Roy Cohn or Fox McKeithen were nearly conservative enough to get that crowd to break for the Democrats or Republicans.

I just hope it’s Campbell or somebody else that could be reasoned with, but I have a feeling it won’t be!
 
I’m almost 100% sure that the National Conservatives will get the presidency in 1996. By then, culture war issues will be in full swing and, despite their leanings, I don’t think Roy Cohn or Fox McKeithen were nearly conservative enough to get that crowd to break for the Democrats or Republicans.
Mmm, I do think they will get it eventually but 96 seems unlikely. To have that happen would require a Financial collapse or the Dems getting a horrible candadite. Currently the Dems have thread the needle well on social issues and the SC which Mckethein had appointed won't be making any waves. Babbit can keep the south west and the other likely candadite James Griff is definitely going to keep the line on social conservativism
 
Mmm, I do think they will get it eventually but 96 seems unlikely. To have that happen would require a Financial collapse or the Dems getting a horrible candadite. Currently the Dems have thread the needle well on social issues and the SC which Mckethein had appointed won't be making any waves. Babbit can keep the south west and the other likely candadite James Griff is definitely going to keep the line on social conservativism
James Griffin/ Bruce Babbit 1997-2001
Bruce Babbit for the FDR of the VP position
 
Nofix has just released the 2000 election, in between Gonzo's novel-length fourth and fifth updates on Malawi.

You're wrong, after I do Malawi we'll be going on to a detailed breakdown of the results by canton in the 1999 Swiss federal election, showing the swing from the FDP to the CVP, while also showing success for the Greens and EVP at the expense of the Socialists and Liberals.
 
You're wrong, after I do Malawi we'll be going on to a detailed breakdown of the results by canton in the 1999 Swiss federal election, showing the swing from the FDP to the CVP, while also showing success for the Greens and EVP at the expense of the Socialists and Liberals.
after that do an update describing in heavy detail every member of the ITTL house of commons from the POD to 2023 and how they got elected
 
Mmm, I do think they will get it eventually but 96 seems unlikely. To have that happen would require a Financial collapse or the Dems getting a horrible candadite. Currently the Dems have thread the needle well on social issues and the SC which Mckethein had appointed won't be making any waves. Babbit can keep the south west and the other likely candadite James Griff is definitely going to keep the line on social conservativism

Post-Cohn, the Republican Party has been directionless and divided. Babbit seems pretty vulnerable as a candidate (like Gore but a little worse imo) and I think a lot of Democrats would come out of the woodwork to run against him. They’ve had eight years McKeithen costing by as far as internal party popularity goes and it seems that the Democrats haven’t really had somebody they’ve been happy with since Humphrey in 1972, over 20 years ago. I expect ‘96 to be where the Democrats implode worse than the Republicans did in this election, but I guess we’ll have to see how McKeithen’s second term goes.

James Griffin/ Bruce Babbit 1997-2001
Bruce Babbit for the FDR of the VP position

That’s probably the best possible future for Babbit imo. I think he’s a fairly weak candidate, but a decent politician all around.

You're wrong, after I do Malawi we'll be going on to a detailed breakdown of the results by canton in the 1999 Swiss federal election, showing the swing from the FDP to the CVP, while also showing success for the Greens and EVP at the expense of the Socialists and Liberals.

That sounds fun, but the real question is, when are we going to get the 19 part breakdown of Hunter S. Thompson’s entire political career that I’ve been dreaming of?
 
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