no Russian annexation of Crimea, puppet state set up

Instead of annexing Crimea , Putin sets up a Puppet republic of crimea.

Would Russia get less severe sanction or none at all
 

CaliGuy

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Instead of annexing Crimea , Putin sets up a Puppet republic of crimea.

Would Russia get less severe sanction or none at all
I doubt that it would make much of a difference; after all, Crimea would be under Russian control either way.
 

Loghain

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The only difference is Russia actually waits with Referendum and Allows International Observers in.
I think it would have worked with about 65 for 35 Against. and it would actually be legitimate
 
The only difference is Russia actually waits with Referendum and Allows International Observers in.
I think it would have worked with about 65 for 35 Against. and it would actually be legitimate
I don't think that would have been any more legitimate since the government holding the referendum would still not be legitimate.
However, it would make it easier for Ukraine to either accept a compromise solution. Such as Ukraine being returned the territory and then holding a second referendum under the international eye, with Ukraine being legally obligated to respect the result of said second referendum.
 
IT would be like Donbas war on steroids, Crimea had an even higher number of ethnic Russians and a small corridor to funnel Ukrainian troops through.

The eastern Ukrainian rebels have shut down non orthodox churches and expelled religious minorities. If this was repeated in Crimea it would probably take a direct Russian intervention to stop a nasty ethnic cleansing campaign from starting against the tartars.
 

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As a person, who saw the start of the conflict [from the Russian side of the border, but well-informed about the events in Ukraine], I can make some remarks:

1. Pro-Russian separatist in Eastern Ukraine are much more “pro-Russian”, than “separatists”. In fact, they fight not for independence, but for annexation of their regions to Russia. Annexation of Crimea gave the pro-Russian movements hope, that Donetsk/Lugansk/Kharkov/Odessa/Nikolayev – will soon become parts of Russia to. I March-April 2014, I heard from people from Donetsk: “Russia soon took us to his, and we will receive a salaries and pensions, as in Moscow. War? What war? Ukraine passed Crimea without the fight, Ukraine will pass Donbass to”. I think, if Russia refused to annex Crime, those dreams would be broken. Also, we must remember, than the war in Donbass start, when Igor Girkin’s squard crossed the Ukrainian border and took Slavyansk in Lugansk region of Ukraine. Girkin is [he is still alive] a hard Russian imperialist, who took part in annexation of Crimea, and wanted do the same in Donbass. Without annexation of Crimea – I did no think, that Girkin wanted to continue the game.
So, in one sentence – I think, that Independent Crimea would mean no the war in Donbass at all.
 
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