No Roosevelt?

What would be the effects of either no Theodore Roosevelt presidency or just a single term? He did a lot for the trust busting as well as national parks, plus ended the Russo Japanese War and many other things.
Though I'm more interested in the effects on businesses not limited, you can talk about effects on any area. Thanks!
 
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The socialists would gain a lot more support, until either the Republicans or Democrats absorbed them and did what TR did.
 
Ah, so you mean Theodore Roosevelt.

Well, not much will change in the Spanish-American War. A progressive will probably be chosen to be McKinley's running mate. If he is still assassinated, the new president will not break as many trusts as TR, but considering IOTL Taft broke more trusts than TR, those trusts all most likely be broken eventually.

Most likely, this progressive president will not have the support TR had. Without his charisma, he will not be renominated in favor of more conservative candidates. These candidates will not push progressive policies through Congress, leading to socialism gaining more support.
 
How does conservation policy develop without Roosevelt? While there is a case to be made that much of the policies that made up Roosevelt's agenda would have been pursued under another President in the period-Roosevelt's conservation policy was somewhat unique to him. I can see the United States developing similar anti-trust policies in his absence-but I'm less sure about conservation for that reason.
 
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Being a game-hunter and explorer, dime novels about the West ingrained into American culture, and other such natural history/ecology going on around the world (the stereotypical British game hunter/conservationist from movies with his monocle and accent shouting "Bully! Bully!" is the British equivalent of TR). TR was a product of his times. Places like Yellowstone's Ole Faithful have already captured American attention. British attention to the wildlife and amazing natural features of Africa were causing America to see the same in their own backyard since they weren't out exploring with the big boys of the Dark Continent.
 
Ah, so you mean Theodore Roosevelt.

Well, not much will change in the Spanish-American War. A progressive will probably be chosen to be McKinley's running mate. If he is still assassinated, the new president will not break as many trusts as TR, but considering IOTL Taft broke more trusts than TR, those trusts all most likely be broken eventually.

Most likely, this progressive president will not have the support TR had. Without his charisma, he will not be renominated in favor of more conservative candidates. These candidates will not push progressive policies through Congress, leading to socialism gaining more support.

Yeah, I forgot to specify which Roosevelt I meant lol.
But wasn't Taft elected only because Teddy backed him up? I'd imagine that no Roosevelt or a single term presidency would mean no Taft, and thus a lot of the trust busting wouldn't happen.
 
Yeah, I forgot to specify which Roosevelt I meant lol.
But wasn't Taft elected only because Teddy backed him up? I'd imagine that no Roosevelt or a single term presidency would mean no Taft, and thus a lot of the trust busting wouldn't happen.

Nellie Taft was very ambitious for her husband, and he was a very capable administrator. His service as Governor General of the Phillipines (appointed by McKinley), was excellent training for the presidency. Even with a different president, he would have been a strong contender for either the 1904 or 1908 election.

I don't think a single-term TR presidency is at all likely unless Hanna doesn't die, in which case TR may not get the GOP nomination. Should that happen, trust-busting will be off the agenda for at least as long as he remains in the White House. However, TR isn't going to go away (unless the reason he wasn't VP is that he died in the Spanish-American War), and Hanna was quite an elderly man. Even had he not died in 1904, he may well have done during his own term or not sought re-election in 1908. In which case, TR would likely have been very well placed to run again, as would Taft.
 
Perhaps if they slow down with the conservationist stuff then there won't be the detrimental evictions (and occasional massacres) of those in some of the most gardened qui areas of the West. Turns out the reason they were like that was because of the Natives living there and burning, cutting, planting as need be.
 
Yeah, I forgot to specify which Roosevelt I meant lol.
But wasn't Taft elected only because Teddy backed him up? I'd imagine that no Roosevelt or a single term presidency would mean no Taft, and thus a lot of the trust busting wouldn't happen.

Taft didn't really want the job Theodore kind of pushed him into it. Then turned on him with loads of public insults after the Taft administration took action against a trust TR supported.
 
Taft didn't really want the job Theodore kind of pushed him into it. Then turned on him with loads of public insults after the Taft administration took action against a trust TR supported.

It was Nellie that pushed WH Taft into the presidency. TR believed (probably rightly) that Taft wanted to be Chief Justice and at least twice offered him a seat on the Supreme Court with that end in mind. It was only when Taft turned down those nominations that Roosevelt backed him as his successor.

Also, the crucial point in the breach in their relationship was Taft's sacking of Gifford Pinchot as conservation supremo. The trust allegation that got TR's goat was when it was alleged that he'd been hoodwinked during the stemming of the 1907 banking crisis into green lighting a steel company takeover which he wouldn't normally have accepted, but really the insults only started flying in 1912 and particularly once Taft used patronage influence to gain the nomination depite TR's victories in the primaries.
 
It was Nellie that pushed WH Taft into the presidency. TR believed (probably rightly) that Taft wanted to be Chief Justice and at least twice offered him a seat on the Supreme Court with that end in mind. It was only when Taft turned down those nominations that Roosevelt backed him as his successor.

Also, the crucial point in the breach in their relationship was Taft's sacking of Gifford Pinchot as conservation supremo. The trust allegation that got TR's goat was when it was alleged that he'd been hoodwinked during the stemming of the 1907 banking crisis into green lighting a steel company takeover which he wouldn't normally have accepted, but really the insults only started flying in 1912 and particularly once Taft used patronage influence to gain the nomination depite TR's victories in the primaries.

Whoa, I need to look more into that. I was pretty sure that without Teddy Roosevelt there wouldn't be a President Taft
 
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