No Napoleon

Valdemar II

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Where was that?

Can't be America, which had one of the world's highest standards of living in the 1770s, and with it one of the world's highest literacy rates.

And why would what matter? USA won for precisely the same reason the Spanish Colonies won, because the mother country had to fight against a guerilla campaign on the the other side of the world*. A invasion of Cuba by USA in 1850 gives USA none of these advantages.

*Except the Spanish did it while they were still rebuilding from a long and brutal war.
 
And why would what matter? USA won for precisely the same reason the Spanish Colonies won, because the mother country had to fight against a guerilla campaign on the the other side of the world*. A invasion of Cuba by USA in 1850 gives USA none of these advantages.

Cuba clearly wouldn't fly, but I could see an invasion of New Spain which spirals out of control given 19th Century Spain's habit of a revolution every five years.
 

67th Tigers

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Cuba clearly wouldn't fly, but I could see an invasion of New Spain which spirals out of control given 19th Century Spain's habit of a revolution every five years.

This was damage done by the Peninsula War. If that's butterflied away then Spain will remain a stable autocracy.

No Napoleon = no exposure of the paper tiger that was Spain.

Of course, maybe the Spanish King will pick a fight with the British and lose the colonies at a later date...
 
I really don't think America could have taken on Spain which was not invaded and still has it's Empire.
I hate those assumptions...

Isn't it already in the TL cliches thread? That a US-Spanish Empire War is just a Mexican-American War + Spanish-American War?

By the way, no Napoleon means no Louisiana Purchase, at least at first.
 
And why would what matter? USA won for precisely the same reason the Spanish Colonies won, because the mother country had to fight against a guerilla campaign on the the other side of the world*. A invasion of Cuba by USA in 1850 gives USA none of these advantages.

*Except the Spanish did it while they were still rebuilding from a long and brutal war.

Total BS, the two are not comparable. I would not consider the American revolutionary war to be a Guerrilla Campaign.
 
Total BS, the two are not comparable. I would not consider the American revolutionary war to be a Guerrilla Campaign.

It involved both guerrilla and conventional warfare. Just like South America later, excluding the naval campaign.
 
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