No Manzikert: What happens to the West and the Crusades?

Abdul Hadi Pasha

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midgardmetal said:
Not to mention Michael Parapinaces' handling of the subsequent crisis, which made a bad, but easily repairable situation much worse. For one, had he simply recognized Romanus' treaty as valid, things would have probably been restored to status-quo fairly easily... I am sure Asp Arslan would have gladly obliged to recognize Michael should Michael have decided to live up to the Byzantine end of the bargain - friendship with Romanus or not.
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I'm not sure about that. Arp Arslan was infuriated on two counts - one, that his friend was murdered, and two, that a monarch was murdered. Regicide in his mind couldn't go unpunished, for the precedent it set.
 

Cloudy Vortex

Agreed. The murder of Romanos went against almost everything Alp and the Turks believed in. They went from feeling that the Byzantines were leaders of civilization to being little more than wealthy thugs. (Better description of the Italians?:p) Now the Turks had no compunctions against grinding the Greeks into the ground.
 

orion900

No Crusades....

There wouldn't be a Crusades like there was in OTL, it would be smaller, maybe more in line with the spainish reconquest. Still there was a strong emotional tie to the holy land. And as long as there was travel to and from the Holy places, there wouldn't be a Crusades like there was in OTL.
 
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