No Maccabean Revolt

See title. The Maccabean Revolt and the surrounding cultural clash between Judaism and Hellenization pretty much changed the face of Judaism forever (and by extension, those faiths that derived from Judaism). So, what do you think would have happened had the revolt not taken place? Had the Seleucids not imposed Greek culture upon the Hebrews? Or conversely, had the Jews embraced the Hellenic culture fully?
 
See title. The Maccabean Revolt and the surrounding cultural clash between Judaism and Hellenization pretty much changed the face of Judaism forever (and by extension, those faiths that derived from Judaism). So, what do you think would have happened had the revolt not taken place? Had the Seleucids not imposed Greek culture upon the Hebrews? Or conversely, had the Jews embraced the Hellenic culture fully?

As I recall the Hellenization had occurred and been occurring for about 100 yrs. So to assume it doesn't take place is I think not accurate. After all Saul of Tarrses (sp?) later the apostle Paul was a Hellenized Jew.

No I think the Maccabean revolt had much more to do with politics and control of the Pharisees than it does with Hellenization which seems to be a convenient pretext to assert local control.

An interesting butterfly is that the Selucids are not raked by internal unrest and maybe to resist the incursions of the Parthians.
 
The Pharisees came into existence only after the Hasmonean state gained independance.

Anyway, the Jews were Hellenized to a degree. They spoke Koine Greek and many adopted Greek names. But I don't see a majority being fully Hellenized. Without the Maccabbean revolt there is one less thing the Seleucids have to worry about(during a rather long time, the Seleucids were occupied with that region and Hasmonean leaders had influence within the Syrian court. Also, the Romans supported the Hasmoneans so any conflict with the Hasmoneans means conflict with the Republic).
I guess it could delay the Seleucid's fall, but the Southern Levant will break up from the rest of the Seleucid Empire after a civil war(very common in that era with the Syrians) and with it Judea will probably gain independance of some sort(though probably not under the Hasmoneans, who started out as a minor priestly family from some mildly-known countryside town).
In short, I think it will remove the Jews' political power for at least 40 years, and give a minor boost - barely enough to save it - to the Seleucid Empire.
 
How incorporated was Greek philosophy into Jewish thought at the time? I wonder how likely it would be to get an earlier Jewish philosophical renaissance.
 
How incorporated was Greek philosophy into Jewish thought at the time? I wonder how likely it would be to get an earlier Jewish philosophical renaissance.
Not much.
The Jews were pretty much left alone by the Ptolmeis, and by the Seleucids as well(at first) so they didn't have any oppurtunity to recieve greek philosophical values into their cultures.
 
How incorporated was Greek philosophy into Jewish thought at the time? I wonder how likely it would be to get an earlier Jewish philosophical renaissance.
Not much.
The Jews were pretty much left alone by the Ptolmeis, and by the Seleucids as well(at first) so they didn't have any oppurtunity to recieve greek philosophical values into their cultures.
 
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