No LOTR

zert

When I was making my semi joking remarks I was thinking of Early Disney, before 1970. I agree that their later movies and franchises have been good overall. though they BUTCHERED John Carter (of Mars! folks).

A alter Disney attempt on Hobbit would be interesting, especially if they went non animated.
 

zert

Guess it could be worse. A Looney Tunes version of the Hobbit! Bugs Bunny as Bilbo!! Yosemite Sam as as Gandalf!!!:eek::eek::eek:
 
oshron

oshron

zert said:
Guess it could be worse. A Looney Tunes version of the Hobbit! Bugs Bunny as Bilbo!! Yosemite Sam as as Gandalf!!!:eek::eek::eek:
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that would actually be pretty entertaining. an ersatz of Gandalf (not a particular Looney Tunes character; they had plenty of one-off characters as a story demanded) stumbles into Bugs' home while trying to find Bilbo, then the dwarves show up--having been following Gandalf 'cuz they have no idea where the Shire is--and they FORCE Bugs to go along with them to the Lonely Mountain :D the entire story would probably be abbreviated in the same way as Bugs' little detour to Antarctica with a lost penguin that one time and culminate in him tricking Smaug, only to side with the dragon since all the rest of the characters have been jerks throughout :D :D :D
 
Corsair_Caruso

Corsair_Caruso

oshron said:
that would actually be pretty entertaining. an ersatz of Gandalf (not a particular Looney Tunes character; they had plenty of one-off characters as a story demanded) stumbles into Bugs' home while trying to find Bilbo, then the dwarves show up--having been following Gandalf 'cuz they have no idea where the Shire is--and they FORCE Bugs to go along with them to the Lonely Mountain :D the entire story would probably be abbreviated in the same way as Bugs' little detour to Antarctica with a lost penguin that one time and culminate in him tricking Smaug, only to side with the dragon since all the rest of the characters have been jerks throughout :D :D :D
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That doesn't sound too far off, considering how Looney Tunes did the Ring cycle.
 

Lord High Executioner

Lindseyman said:
As well as the obvious lack of tolkein lites there is probably no D&D (hence noAD&D), Runequest or RPGs as we knew them in the 70s.
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Considering that Gary Gygax reportedly somewhere between disliked and
loathed LOTR, and only put in hobbits (and presumably balrogs etc., but hobbits are what is mentioned on the subject) because his players demanded
it, I find that doubtful. As far as I know very little in Appendix N or other
recognised sources of inspiration for D&D are "Tolkien lite".
 
oshron

oshron

zert said:
I am sure it would be. I just can not convey Elmer's voice. ;)
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Just weplace all youw R's with W's and you'll get awong fine. Ahahahahahahah. :) Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go help some mice welease theiw secwet weapon. ;)
 

Kammada

Mike Stearns said:
Agreed. No Lord of the Rings means no Narnia, no Wheel of Time, no Harry Potter and no Song of Ice and Fire.

A million geeks weep.
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I am pretty sure Narnia would still be around and it would be pretty much the same as we know it. It was in the works at the same time with the LOTR, and the LOTR's influence on it is exaggerated. Tolkien himself has even 'disowned' Narnia on a few occasions, stating his hearty dislike for it. As for WoT, ASoIaF and such like doorstoppers, I am not sure there wouldn't have appeared the likes of these, either. They just would be more Conanesque (Jordan, if memory serves me, has written some Conan spin-offs) and thus less, well, doorstoppery. Their audience would have been less mainstream, too, but still numerous.

zert said:
I had heard that before and I agree with you. Just the IDEA that Disney somehow got its gruttonly hands on the Hobbitt.

The songs, the talking animals, and a tap dancing Gollum to top it off. :eek::eek::eek:
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Here you go:
Walt Disney Presents: The Lord of the Rings
Hope you'll like it as I did. No, srsly, it sent me ROTFLMAO, but it's scary as hell at the same time, if you understand that no one would have prevented this stuff from happening.:eek:
 
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Lindseyman

zert said:
Now who would play Smaug? Pepe Le Pew?!!:eek::eek:
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No he'd be Beorn.
Wile E Coyote would be Smaug
That link is horrifying but you could imagine it happening.
About D&D just because they're not listed doesn't mean that LOTR and all the Tolkein lites didn't influence D&D
 
oshron

oshron

zert said:
Now who would play Smaug? Pepe Le Pew?!!:eek::eek:
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like i said, they wouldnt NEED to substitute a given Looney Tune for every single character; they used one-offs all the time, like throwing in Nero in a Roman setting for instance (which admittedly also had Yosemite Sam as a centurion), or that random Scotsman from when Bugs accidentally tunneled to Scotland while trying to find Los Angeles. the characters would just need to be ersatzes cast in the proper Looney Tunes light. like so:

“Smaug”: Thieves! Fire! Murder! Who took my golden cup?!
Bugs: Ehh, what’s up, drake?
“Smaug”: You! How dare you trespass on my lair?!
Bugs: Who’re you to talk?
“Smaug”: I! Am! SMAUG! My armor is like tenfold shields, my teeth are like—
Bugs: Hold on, big guy. I got an idea. (whispers something into Smaug’s ear)
[[outside]]
“Thorin”: What’s taking that rabbit so long?
Bugs: Hey, boys! Come on in! I got the dragon busy!
“Thorin”: Really? That’s great! Come on!
[[the dwarves run in, only to find Smaug looking right at them]]
Bugs: Now YOU’RE gonna listen to ME.
[[fade, cut to Bugs and Smaug managing a burger joint or something while the dwarves have to advertise for them and clean up]]
 

zert

oshron said:
like i said, they wouldnt NEED to substitute a given Looney Tune for every single character; they used one-offs all the time, like throwing in Nero in a Roman setting for instance (which admittedly also had Yosemite Sam as a centurion), or that random Scotsman from when Bugs accidentally tunneled to Scotland while trying to find Los Angeles. the characters would just need to be ersatzes cast in the proper Looney Tunes light. like so:

“Smaug”: Thieves! Fire! Murder! Who took my golden cup?!
Bugs: Ehh, what’s up, drake?
“Smaug”: You! How dare you trespass on my lair?!
Bugs: Who’re you to talk?
“Smaug”: I! Am! SMAUG! My armor is like tenfold shields, my teeth are like—
Bugs: Hold on, big guy. I got an idea. (whispers something into Smaug’s ear)
[[outside]]
“Thorin”: What’s taking that rabbit so long?
Bugs: Hey, boys! Come on in! I got the dragon busy!
“Thorin”: Really? That’s great! Come on!
[[the dwarves run in, only to find Smaug looking right at them]]
Bugs: Now YOU’RE gonna listen to ME.
[[fade, cut to Bugs and Smaug managing a burger joint or something while the dwarves have to advertise for them and clean up]]
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You are probably right about that. I will say you are creative with the Smaug scenario. For a darker cartoon it is the Dwarves being rotated on the spits at Smaug Burgers. :eek:
 
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