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What's a plausible POD to avoid the Korean War? (The later the better)

What would be some ramifications? Would the lack of a Korean War drastically affect the nature of the Cold War or would some other Hotspot clause a similar escalation only later?
 

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What's a plausible POD to avoid the Korean War? (The later the better)

What would be some ramifications? Would the lack of a Korean War drastically affect the nature of the Cold War or would some other Hotspot clause a similar escalation only later?

Short of the Chinese doing way better than OTL, none that I can see.
 
What would be some ramifications? Would the lack of a Korean War drastically affect the nature of the Cold War or would some other Hotspot clause a similar escalation only later?

The Korean War had a ginormous impact on military budgets. US military budgets were lower between 1945 and 1950, then they have been at any other time between the end of World War II and now. Some of the increase was due to the Soviet A-bomb test and the Berlin crisis, but there was already signs of leveling off in defense spending between the bomb test and the start of the war. It also led to the permanent basing of large American military units on European soil outside of Germany. These things might have happened eventually anyway, of course.

I've also been wondering if, without the Korean War and the defense buildup it led to, the US might have ended the draft in the early 50s. The Selective Service Act was scheduled to expire in, I think, 1951 (not sure about that).
 
Have the western allies comprehensively win the battle of falaise and capture all of germany, denying Russia access to German jet and rocket technology and tonnes of Uranium Oxide

Rolling up the people who penetrated the manhattan earlier would help too

Stalin won't launch the attack without having his own bomb, and maybe with those POD's you could push it back till his death...kruschev might not allow that war to go ahead
 
Not sure about a PoD, but one ramification would be, assuming Korea remains divided, the North does even better than it did in what would be the post war. Despite being bombed to hell during the Korean War, the North still did better in terms of economic growth compared to the South. Without that immense destruction, the North could probably be softer, more or less to a degree. Also, there's not so much strength in claims of American imperialism without a war (of course, dependent on whether American troops would still be stationed in the South without a war).

With a set of realistic changes due to no Korean War, North Korea could be more open to economic reforms like China or just as susceptible to the isolationism of OTL. The South could also do much better, as they were in a similar situation of destruction.

I don't think you can get rid of a Korean War of some sort altogether, just as we know it. The Kims are definitely the ones you'd need to take out. Now that I think of it a good PoD would be having Beria pick a homegrown Korean Communist instead of a Stalin-esque outsider to the Korean Communist movement.
 
Have the western allies comprehensively win the battle of falaise and capture all of germany, denying Russia access to German jet and rocket technology and tonnes of Uranium Oxide

Rolling up the people who penetrated the manhattan earlier would help too

Stalin won't launch the attack without having his own bomb, and maybe with those POD's you could push it back till his death...kruschev might not allow that war to go ahead

I don't know about the Uranium, but the USSR had its own rocketry program that before 1945 was second only to Germany's. As to jets, I'm not sure but they did have quite a lot of advanced aircraft development going on (the Russians were an aviation leader pre-war). The speed with which they produced fighter jets that outclassed the American ones suggests that they had their own jet program going, even without German input.
 
I've just been reading a book about the Korean War where the author notes that if Kim Il-sung had not gone to war with South Korea, that a unified Communist Korea would have happened within a few years.

It's worth noting the extreme unpopularity that the South Koreans had for Syngman Rhee and the suprisingly high popularity of Communism in the South. It was Kim's declaration of war that united all the people's of South Korea under a single banner of being against the North.
 
Actually, a POD could simply be Stalin not giving the go ahead. He did so in the OTL because the North Koreans asked him for permission, and he didn't think the US would care about a small power half way around the globe, and wouldn't interfere. If he thought the US would get involved, he'd withdraw his support for war.
 
How would this effect the 1952 election? Without the Korean war, we aren't seen as being in a stalemate, no Chinese invasion, Truman never "fires" MacCarthur and his popularity doesn't take a further hit. For those who have more knowledge of this point in history, is Truman's popularity high enough to make a run for the presidentcy in 1952? The 22nd ammendment, though passed in 1947 didn't apply to Truman so he was the last man with the ability to be president for a second elected and 3rd total presidential term.
 
If I recall, there was a recession on which hurt Truman's 1952 chances too. I don't recall if that was due to the Korean war or just post-WW2 war-to-peace-production transition problems.
 
Question: What effects would a lack of a Korean war have on the emergence of the Military-Industrial Complex, America's lack of a disarmament after WW2 and the Cold war with Russia, and the Anti-Communist paranoia?
 
Korea won't be the precedent for the first large-scale U.S. "police action", and the USSR might boycott the UN longer.
Question: What effects would a lack of a Korean war have on the emergence of the Military-Industrial Complex, America's lack of a disarmament after WW2 and the Cold war with Russia, and the Anti-Communist paranoia?
The Military-Industrial Complex will be hard to ramp down completely IMO due to World War II, and what are likely to be concerns elsewhere, but it could be considerably weaker depending on how things go. There will still be a Cold War, and the U.S. will still be firmly anticommunist because China will still probably have gone Communist.
 
What's a plausible POD to avoid the Korean War? (The later the better)
Actually, a POD could simply be Stalin not giving the go ahead. He did so in the OTL because the North Koreans asked him for permission, and he didn't think the US would care about a small power half way around the globe, and wouldn't interfere. If he thought the US would get involved, he'd withdraw his support for war.
Truman gave a speech in which He said something about "Korea not being in Americas Sphere of Influence"
Russia took this as meaning the US didn't care what happened there.

Course once US troops were attacked - the US started caring real quick.
If he had only held Kim back a couple years, till the American troops were withdrawn...............
 
Stalin demand that the north Koreans improves their military instead of using it right now.

In 1954, the French gets beaten in Vietnam, the the Chinese and Koreans decides it is a signe and moves against south korea.
 
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