no hitler

The Weimar Republic might not fall either. Even after the Wall Street Crash, some form of dictatorship wasn't completely inevitable.
 
Since Hitler WAS the NSDAP, without him it will remain split into several Bavarian pub parties. I don't think the KPD would get elected into power, either, at least not without going into coalition, and since they hated the other leftist parties, they won't.
 
there is a rule, if Hitler dies he is replaced with someone far worse... this is an overdone WI, there are several good threads in our archives if you use the search function.
 
More or less. If it doesn't, it's because you failed the assassination.

Holy shit....

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Ancientone

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Lots of books never get published, lots of movies never get made, Mel Brooks produces "Springtime for von Papen", the Jews have to complain about how badly they were treated in the Crusades, toothbrush mustaches remain popular, an upraised right arm remains a request to go to the bathroom, traffic cops have to take Stalin as a role model and this cat would never become famous.
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Or this fish

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Or this house
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If Adopt Hitler had died in the Great War is a massively overdone thread. Might I recomend the search function.


To summarise all I've ever read, that's been argued on the subject, no Hitler means no 'National Socialist' movement ever bares fruit. The Weinmar Republic does not go communist, because the communists were more important in the immediate fallout of the Great War, since the revolutionary fervour came from eastern Europe and Russia's Civil war.

Mussolini and his fascist ideals come to define Italy throughout the 1920s, as well as spill over partly by Italian consent, but also naturally into France, Yugoslavia (Croatia) and Greece to some degree.

The American depression at the end of the 1920s still causes economic ruin in Europe and Japan, which leads Japan in this context to still begin its militarisation, but without a strong leader in Germany, the crash is just that....a crash.

With a more moderate europe going into the mid-1930s, Italy still conducts its occupation of Ethiopia, while expanding influence in Croatia/Slovenia. Likewise the Spanish Civil war still occurs, but with less obvious ideological supporters is more drawn out, but is still likely a nationalist win, meanwhile the Soviet Union continues to be Europes big 'bug bear'...

...Without the potents of War in Europe Imperial Japan does not conduct its 'brought forward timetable' to act in China.

Weinmar Germany by now is most likely reverted to a form of 'Social Conservative' with a capital C. ideology, and while still embittered by Versailles, without demagogues whipping up fury, is more likely siding with Britain and America, over France and the Soviet Union. Italy and Nationalist Spain being somewhat too Mediterranean.

Entering the early 1940s, Italy is getting ready to act in Croatia/Slovenia to expand Italian interests here, and likely get's away with it under the guise of interventionism that allows Italy to annex a portion of coastal Croatia, while possibly splitting up parts of northern Yugoslavia into various smaller states. The rest of Europe letting this happen, but also Britain, France and Germany strongly condemning this facist move.

However this may cause the 'fascists' to look for friends in the rest of Yugoslavia, Greece and Hungary to get them to support Italy's ambitions, however Mussolini being the character he was, never get's too much further than this.

Imperial Japan tests the Soviet Union in several border skirmishes that eventually result in Japanese major defeat, and the loss of parts of northern Manchuria, however, Britain and America fearing Soviet encroachment, back the volatile Imperial Japanese government as Manchuria begins to collapse, eventually being able to conclude a peace that cedes a large majority of Manchuria to the Soviet Union.

This causes Imperial Japan to have to reign in its military wing that has lost so much for Imperial Japan, and allows it to return to a more stable ring-wing government.

A possible fallout being the resigning of the Anglo-Japanese Alliance.


The Soviet Union has by now become the 'bug bear of the world' and we begin to enter a form of 'cold war' whereby soviet interests are being curbed by Britain, France and Japan, but also increasingly by Germany.

If Stalin decides to retake the Baltics, then this creates a flash point for Weinmar Germany, since Prussia/Konigsberg is now under direct Soviet threat, and if Stalins gone this far, Finland and/or Bessarabia might also have been/be a target.

Against this backdrop, by the 1950s, we may have a situation developing where the Communist revolution needs to be ended, rather than the Facist one.



However by this point things unravel into a myriad of possibilities....
 
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