no hiroshimer how long a nuclear shadow?

WI either smart US diplomats had managed to tell the Japanese militariss the choice is either surrender July 1945 and keep your Emporer or fight on and likely have both Soviet and Chinese occupations zones and Hirohito was able to get a deal through that crazy bunch


Or the bomb was delayed a couple fo months and Japan surrendered a week or two after the Soviet Union joined in.

The existence of the thing would not have been kept secret forever from public.

However would it be less scary for never having been used against human targets?

Might it even have seemed more frightening?
 
Or the bomb was delayed a couple fo months and Japan surrendered a week or two after the Soviet Union joined in.

There wouldn't be a Japan left. Better have the bomb.

Seriously, not using the bomb only spells trouble for Japan, not relieve. So that fear of the bomb was better for them, better for the world perhaps then have the USA and USSR invade the home islands. Hirohito would never strike a deal that gives Chinese or Soviets territory. Seeing what the bombs did gave the push to accept surrender.

It would spell trouble for USA and USSR as well as conflict would most likely evolve from Japan split up between the two.

The Soviets where on their way of making the bomb too, without USA using it first Stalin might be eager to be the first to use it. On whatever target(Seoul, Teheran, Helsinki, Bejing, Tokyo. to call a few crazy ideas)

Too the public the fear of the bomb might be less, as they don't know what it actually is untill one is dropped. But too the governments holding the power things are indeed very scary.
 
The OP states that Japan surrenders soon after the SU moves into its Chinese possessions, ie, no Operation Downfall, no partition, nothing.
 
The OP states that Japan surrenders soon after the SU moves into its Chinese possessions, ie, no Operation Downfall, no partition, nothing.

Uhm ,no he didn't . Nothing about the Soviets entering their Chinese possession, just about goving up territory too the Soviets and Chinese which is never going to happen.
 
I quoted the second line. Not a chance in hell the emperor is going to surrender after loosing Chinese possessions. if the bombs don't fall, both USA and USSR are going to invade.
 
Hm, so that would explain why, at the emperor's orders, the Japanese sought out the Soviets as peace-makers between themselves and the Americans. Seriously, the problem is not the Emperor, it's the military, getting them to accept surrender is going to be difficult.
 
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