No Hasmonean State

So the Maccabee revolt was initiated when a Jewish priest, Mattathias, and his sons killed a Seleucid military officer and a Jew who were attempting to enforce a ban on Jewish religious practice. What will be the effects on the ancient Near East if Mattathias takes no action? Basically, if the rebellion never happens and the Hasmonean state is never formed, what takes its place?
 
So the Maccabee revolt was initiated when a Jewish priest, Mattathias, and his sons killed a Seleucid military officer and a Jew who were attempting to enforce a ban on Jewish religious practice. What will be the effects on the ancient Near East if Mattathias takes no action? Basically, if the rebellion never happens and the Hasmonean state is never formed, what takes its place?

Native Jewish backlash against Seleucid Hellenization would be guruanteed to occur if the reforms would affect the Temple itself. But if the queston was "if Maccabee revolt failed" then the Seleucid reprisals against the Jewish population may be severe. Perhaps the Kohanim in Jerusalem is stripped of their priveliges and thrown into exile. Even so, if the Maccabee Revolt failed, then this may not be the end of Jewish identity. A large minority still existed in Babylonia, where the Reshe Galut (Prince of the Exile) ruled over the Jewish community, and there were the Geonim of the academies. Both the Torah and the Talmud were written there.

As for Judea, a culturally Hellenized urban population, removed from its Judaic past or heritage, may leave it a less rebellion prone region.
 
Well, it's worth noting the Samaritans were unmolested by the Seleucid. Perhaps they gain in prominence?

But is a Hellenistic Judaism really that bad? Look at Philo of Alexandria for what it might look like.
 

birdboy2000

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Alexandria and Babylon already had Jewish communities by this time, so they're not dying out no matter what the Seleucids do. What Judaism ends up looking like, however (save probably more Hellenized) is anyone's guess - it's quite doubtful that rabbinical Judaism and Christianity will develop along anywhere near OTL lines.

And of course, there would be no Hanukkah.
 
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