No GNW (or “Peter goes South”)

Interesting Polish commonwealth is starting to look increasingly big, I think it's fine as long as the corruption and nobility infighting spread to areas previously under control of Prussia and Austria otherwise next generation Russia may have to deal with Poland. Maybe encourage the decadence and corruption if possible? It's still better all the way for a weak commonwealth to shackle polish nationalists to than let them fight for their utopian ideal.

Egypt is starting to emerge as a power, I wonder if they try their colonial empire scheme.
It looks like in OTL “everybody” was inclined not to allow Egypt to became excessively strong.

O yeah I read about that war, should be noted that the 1877 war their was a major hidden cost, a lot of Russian volunteers and groups raising funds ect definitely was also a issue, given it created a lobby to intervene much more in the Balkans.
This was mostly a byproduct of a weak regime. AII was trying to please everybody, satisfied nobody and was assassinated leaving country in a terrible mess. But, to be fair, he inherited an empire ruined by the previous reign and was trying to get out of the problems most of which will not exist ITTL.
 
Questions:
1. What is Russian practical interest on the Balkans (any part of them)? AFAIK, zero. They are too poor to be the important importers and had very little of value as the export items. Plus, all the local nations tend to hate each other and can’t even decide which territory belongs to whom.

The Danubian Principalities became major grain exporters by the mid 19th century. Controlling this trade as complement to rather than competitor to Russia's own Black Sea grain trade could potentially be very valuable.
 
Greece can be a tricky issue because Britain and France got involved but there would be no reason for Russia to jump into the same bandwagon because it has nothing to gain.

Actually Russia should oppose this as this action could possibly have consequences on it's own Ionian co-vassals, not to mention spur nationalistic feelings among other Balkan groups and cause tensions in Ottoman empire and Russia. Generally Russia has safe passage to through the Strait's and having pro French and British Greek state ready to make trouble in the area is a bad move.

Now if we look a little better at the causes of Greek uprising, well it was started/planned by secret society named Filiki Eteria , composed of Greek diaspora and it even had it's finger's in Russia (it was inspired by revolutionary fevor in Europe and it had republican leanings, enough reason for Tsar to be opposed) , for their chosen leader was from Russia (Alexander Ypsilantis), an Officer in Russian army that pretty much left without Tsar's approval and promised Russian support to Danubian province's if they rebel (they feel for it) . On second Greek Orthodox church was initially against the revolution because they and many members of Greek elite had it good in the Ottoman empire ( at the time Greeks made upper clergy of Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople which was in charge of the Balkans,then Rumeli) and church continued to oppose the revolution until Ottomans executed the Patriarch (which caused outcry in Europe and Russia) and they were skeptical even after that, actually this might not happen in this TL due to friendly relationship with Russia which is Orthodox power .

On second hand regarding other great powers, initially many were opposed to the revolution, Austria under Metternich was against it, as well as Prussia and they did ultimately convince the Tsar to denounce the revolution, which holy league did.

Regarding the British change of stance was mostly followed by popular demand and fear of Russia taking unilateral stance (something that won't happen in this TL) and French stance followed the logic of popular support and because they knew that British and Russians will impose mediation on the Ottoman's anyway and if they don't do something their influence in Greece will be nonexistent (before that Egypt was their client and it was on Ottoman side).

So as long as Ottomans don't do something stupid like execution of the Patriarch Alex could announce Filiki Eteria as a radical organization that doesn't follow the will of Greek people (Patriarch himself is denouncing the revolution after all), then work in concert with Austria, Prussia and Sweden to denounce the revolution and send a memo to the British not to interfere at which point France will probably stay out of it as well.
 
On the Bosphorus and beyond. Part 2
192. On the Bosphorus and beyond. Part 2
Bu şehr-i Stanbul ki, bî-misl ü behâdır,
Bir sengine yekpâre Acem mülkü fedâdır,
Bâzâr-i hüner ma’den-i ilm ü ülemâdır.”

Nedim [1]
“Layık olursa cihanda bana taht-ı şevket
Eylemek mahz-ı safadır bana nasa hızmet
” [2]
Selim III
Lenience in the eyes of Asians is a sign of weakness”
Yermolov
Sultan Selim III was intended to become a great reformer but he was facing serious obstacles.
“The reforms of Selim III, under favorable conditions, could lead to progress in the economy and military affairs. However, the situation in the country was difficult, the government had no support among the people. Reforms were beneficial primarily to the state. As a result of the reforms, the Port Peasantry received only one thing - tax increases. The cities of the Empire remained adherents of traditional foundations: artisans were hammered, merchants counted only on themselves. The most enterprising of them belonged to non-Turkish nationalities, they did not care about strengthening Turkish statehood. The Janissaries opposed the reforms. The fact is that the regular units created by the Sultan favorably differed from the Janissaries in discipline and military training. In the future, they were to replace the Janissary Corps. The Sultan's centralization plans were opposed by large beys of Anatolia, Rumelia and other regions.” https://studfile.net/preview/7192385/page:37/ [3]

In opinion of some modern historians one of the big problems was that Selim was driven by “an unnecessary in this case feeling of mercy” and was ready to roll back the reforms leaving them, and the reformers, at the mercy of opposition that was not suffering from any sentiments. His "Nizam-i Cedid" [new order] army trained by the French officers had only two “regiments” (it was almost impossible for him to divert soldiers from the regular army into the new units) and its most capable unit was the artillery equipped with modern guns cast in the foundry founded by Baron de Tott. These troops had been held in two barracks built outside of Istanbul city center.
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The Ottoman Navy had some new ships with the crews trained European style and two recent campaigns with “Ushak Pasha” provided them with a valuable experience. Presently, the squadron that was operating on the Adriatics, together with the Russian squadron, was in the Marmara Sea causing almost open irritation of the “true believers”. The squadron was also carrying 2,000 Albanians of Ali Pasha of Yanina, the troops known for their ferocity and held in check only by authority of their Pasha and by a high prestige of “Ushak Pasha” .

Rather paradoxically, Selim could, to one degree or another, rely upon the Albanians and Serbs, not because they were really loyal to the throne but because they hated the Janissary. Pretty much the same could be said about the Sipahi but all these troops, except for Kapikulu Sipahis, had been routinely located in the provinces. However, their elite division, Silahdars, chosen from the best warriors in the Ottoman Empire, were placed in Constantinople and there were 12,000 of them.

The Issue. With the recent war over Alexander had time and the resources to dedicate to the “Ottoman Issue”. The interest was not by any measure altruistic. In 1805 the grain export from Odessa only amounted to 700,000 “четвертей” [4] with a total cost of over 5.7 millions (silver) rubles. Strategically, with the Russian navy being in a position to establish blockade of both straits, it could easily starve Constantinople if not to death than at least to a hinger revolt [5]. However, much more important was dependency of the land owners and merchants of the Southern Russia upon the unimpeded exports and if the Muslim radicals would come to power in Istanbul the problems could be expected.

It was quite clear from the report of the Russian Ambassador at the Porte that the Sultan is too mild a person to arrange for the decisive measures unless he is pushed by the right person and backed up by the right resources. The resources were not a problem: five grenadier battalions had been kept ready for embarkation in Sevastopol as “the first installment” with much more following if needed. Taking into an account that the fighting capacities of the Janissary had been steadily deteriorating over the last century, the reinforcement would not probably be even needed.

The problem was to find the right man to handle the situation and Generalissimus Bonapatre had just a man for the task, his former chief of staff, general Yermolov.

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A man of a great personal bravery and charisma and one of the most talented Russian generals, he was extremely intelligent and equally devious [6]. Ushakov, present with his squadron on the site, was of course greatly outranking him but he was an extremely descent and honest man and implementation of the “Asiatic methods” was not his forte. Actually, to a great degree the respect he gained among his Ottoman subordinates was due to his honesty (unusual for the Ottomans of a high rank). Of course, he will follow the imperial orders and provide all necessary backing (and if need arises will not hesitate to burn Istanbul with his artillery) but putting the things together.

Dealing with the Issue. As soon as he arrived and was received by the Sultan, Yermolov started working on implementation of the plan he designed based upon the ambassadorial reports. It looked like he had to deal with two-fold opposition, the military and spiritual.
  • The military opposition, the Janissaries. Although the estimated number of Janissaries at the time was seventy thousand, only thirty thousand of them were combat soldiers; the rest were officials and civilians who received the pay that originally had gone to combat soldiers, but which had been traded by third parties over the years as some sort of state bonds. In fact, from the mid-seventeenth century on, the Janissaries had gradually lost their role as the main combat force in the Ottoman army. Nevertheless, because of their continuing privileges concerning the carrying of arms and immunity from taxation, the Janissaries continued to act as an influential group in domestic political, social, and economic affairs. In many towns of the empire they became involved in commercial activities of all kinds, sometimes establishing monopolies, sometimes playing the role of a trade union for their proteges among the riffraff of Istanbul. It was because of this that some British agents in the Ottoman Empire described the Janissary Corps as the “representative of people” and wondered whether the post-Janissary regime might be a more repressive one, giving the sultan a loyal and apolitical military instrument. Of course those who did not have military training were useless as a military force but in the case of a revolt they would add strength to the intimidating crowd running through the streets of Istanbul. However, as at some point was demonstrated by certain general of the French Republic, “a whiff of a grapeshot” can do miracles to the ill-organized mobs. Yermolov was a self-educated man who was studying the military history very carefully.
  • The spiritual opposition was seemingly a greater problem because the Ulema led by Shaykh al-Islām (who had the power to confirm new sultans) were against any Western influence. However, there was a big “BUT” which Yermolov did not miss: once the sultan was affirmed, the sultan retained a higher authority than the Sheik ul-Islam and could overrule his fatwas.
The artillerymen and Nizam had been put on a high alert and so were Silahdars with the strong pickets being placed near the Sultan residence (and the boats provided in the case he will need to escape to the fleet). The Russian and Ottoman warships were moved closer to the shore and the Albanians made ready to get to the boats and get to the city. High religious officials were ordered to give sermons that it was a religious obligation to oppose the Western enemies “with their own arms and techniques”.

Now, the only thing needed was a provocation triggering an open revolt and this part was easy. The sultan informed them that he was forming a new army, the Sekban-ı Cedit, organized and trained along modern European lines (and that the new army would be Turkish–dominated). The Janissaries saw their institution as crucial to the well-being of the Ottoman Empire, especially to Rumelia, and had previously decided they would never allow its dissolution. Thus, as predicted, they mutinied, advancing on the sultan's palace. The Sultan then brought out the Holy Banner of the Prophet Muhammad from inside the Sacred Trust, intending all true believers to gather beneath it and thus bolster opposition to the Janissaries.
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The government was well prepared. Cannons fired upon the Janissary barracks, while other military forces, joined by students of religious schools and Muslim inhabitants of Istanbul, marched against the rebels. The government forces put down the mutiny on the same day it began. Approximately two thousand rebels were executed in Istanbul and many more were banished either to frontier fortresses in the Balkans or to their home provinces. Two days later it was officially announced that the Janissary Corps was abolished throughout the empire.
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With the exception of some provinces (including Bosnia) where Janissaries were able to resist for several months because of their close commercial and social bonds with local officials and powerholders, the abolition of this four-centuries-old institution was realized more easily than expected.

General Yermolov, his mission accomplished, sailed back to Russia together with Ushakov’s squadron.

Post-Janissary. Following the abolition of the Janissaries as the main body of the Ottoman central army, efforts were made in Istanbul to recruit jobless and poor youngsters aged 15–25 for the new army: “The Victorious Soldiers of Muhammad” (Asakir-i Mansure-i Muhammediyye). The new army was planned to consist of eight regiments with a total of twelve thousand officers and other ranks. Although the recruits were expected to join the ranks voluntarily on a professional basis, low wages and the twelve- year obligatory service was not attractive to many young men and the urgent need for more troops was met by coercing draftees. Local officials preyed upon them and some- times sent them in chains to army camps. However, many of these “volunteers” were sick, old, or unskilled, providing horseless cavalries and unarmed infantries who when war came fled from the battlefield at the first opportunity. Although the new army was officially imagined as an all-Muslim community, many Muslims tried to avoid both volun- tary and mandatory military service. Under the leadership of their feudal and tribal chiefs, rural and tribal communities of ethnic Bosnians, Albanians, Kurds, Yezidees, Arab Bedouins, Lazes, and Turcomans fiercely resisted conscription for dozens of years, and proved willing to give service only as undisciplined mercenaries during campaigns.
In the first ten years the number of recruits was reported to have reached 161,036 soldiers. Of every ten draftees, however, five were lost because of epidemics, four disappeared as war losses (deserters, captives, deaths), and the remaining one was dismissed. Those who were able to retire after twelve years of obligatory service constituted a very small minority. For the Ottoman political elite, the key attributes of the new army were “discipline and drill.” However, the army lacked the skilled officers to teach European drill and maneuvers.

However, this was a matter of future and as for now the task was accomplished: the Russian-friendly Sultan was firmly in power, the most dangerous opposition was dealt with and the moderate (and rather inept) reforms more or less guaranteed a continued existence of the Ottoman Empire. The Serbs, who actually rebelled against the Janissaries, got their autonomy.

In Egypt Muhammed Ali was firmly in power. He was quietly forming a standing army consisting mainly of conscripted native Egyptian Arab peasants trained by French officers and led by Turkish, Albanian, and Circassian commanders. However, it will take years to make it into the serious fighting force so for now he was loyal.


The trade was going uninterrupted and everything was fine and quiet on the Bosphorus.
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[1] “This is the city of Istanbul - unmatched, luxurious./His stone of the lands of all Iran is worthy./People of new searches are born in it,/And at the bazaars of science, its essence is the essence of all knowledge.”
[2] “At the behest of fate, having ascended to the throne,/To serve my people/It will be sweeter than all praise.”
[3] Not too different from the Russian state of the late XVII - early XVIII.
[4] “четверть” = 12 puds (1 pud = 16 kilograms). So it was over 134,000 tons
[5] Did happen in OTL in 1807 when Senyavin established blockade of the Dardanelles. After food riots broke out, Sultan Selim III was replaced with Mustafa IV.
[6] His OTL activities in the Caucasus aside, when being sent to negotiate the peace with Persia he found a rather unexpected way to intimidate his counterparts “I assured the Persians that my ancestors were Tatars, and pretended to be a descendant of Genghis Khan, surprising them with the remark that in the very country where my ancestors ruled, where everything subdued their terrible weapons, I am an ambassador confirming peace and friendship.” Funny as it may be, the claim worked and he was treated with the utmost respect by the intimidated Persians and managed to squeeze the most favorable terms.
 
[6] His OTL activities in the Caucasus aside, when being sent to negotiate the peace with Persia he found a rather unexpected way to intimidate his counterparts “I assured the Persians that my ancestors were Tatars, and pretended to be a descendant of Genghis Khan, surprising them with the remark that in the very country where my ancestors ruled, where everything subdued their terrible weapons, I am an ambassador confirming peace and friendship.” Funny as it may be, the claim worked and he was treated with the utmost respect by the intimidated Persians and managed to squeeze the most favorable terms.
To be fair in the current predicament even I could claim to be a descendant of Gengis Khan :p
 
Actually Russia should oppose this as this action could possibly have consequences on it's own Ionian co-vassals, not to mention spur nationalistic feelings among other Balkan groups and cause tensions in Ottoman empire and Russia. Generally Russia has safe passage to through the Strait's and having pro French and British Greek state ready to make trouble in the area is a bad move.

Now if we look a little better at the causes of Greek uprising, well it was started/planned by secret society named Filiki Eteria , composed of Greek diaspora and it even had it's finger's in Russia (it was inspired by revolutionary fevor in Europe and it had republican leanings, enough reason for Tsar to be opposed) , for their chosen leader was from Russia (Alexander Ypsilantis), an Officer in Russian army that pretty much left without Tsar's approval and promised Russian support to Danubian province's if they rebel (they feel for it) . On second Greek Orthodox church was initially against the revolution because they and many members of Greek elite had it good in the Ottoman empire ( at the time Greeks made upper clergy of Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople which was in charge of the Balkans,then Rumeli) and church continued to oppose the revolution until Ottomans executed the Patriarch (which caused outcry in Europe and Russia) and they were skeptical even after that, actually this might not happen in this TL due to friendly relationship with Russia which is Orthodox power .

On second hand regarding other great powers, initially many were opposed to the revolution, Austria under Metternich was against it, as well as Prussia and they did ultimately convince the Tsar to denounce the revolution, which holy league did.

Regarding the British change of stance was mostly followed by popular demand and fear of Russia taking unilateral stance (something that won't happen in this TL) and French stance followed the logic of popular support and because they knew that British and Russians will impose mediation on the Ottoman's anyway and if they don't do something their influence in Greece will be nonexistent (before that Egypt was their client and it was on Ottoman side).

So as long as Ottomans don't do something stupid like execution of the Patriarch Alex could announce Filiki Eteria as a radical organization that doesn't follow the will of Greek people (Patriarch himself is denouncing the revolution after all), then work in concert with Austria, Prussia and Sweden to denounce the revolution and send a memo to the British not to interfere at which point France will probably stay out of it as well.
In the scenario you described there will be probably no need to send any memos to Britain: its active involvement in the land war against the Ottomans is very unlikely (and a successful one even less so) and strictly naval operations are not enough. Then, the French seemingly profitable colonial activities inevitably point the British attention to the fact that they are missing something of value and the Greek cause mat fade into insignificance.

The Consulate (at least 2 and perhaps all 3 original consuls are still alive) is quite busy building up its colonial empire and the Greek affairs do not really fit into this schema. Unlike OTL, the French public has other excitements besides Greece: Algeria, perhaps Tunisia and the adventures in the Gulf of Guinea, Southern Africa (especially if the shiny baubles already found in Namibia) and perhaps Madagascar and Indo-China as well. The Greek cause is, of course, romantic but who really cares comparing to the diamonds just laying in a dust? Few overly excited enthusiasts. Well, nobody prevents them from buying themselves the rifles and hiring a ship to carry them to their almost definite death. The French Navy and Army have more serious tasks to carry and the people with money have more profitable enterprises to finance.
 
To be fair in the current predicament even I could claim to be a descendant of Gengis Khan :p
The problem is not in the claim itself but in it being convincing enough. 😜

Yermolov had with him a cousin who looked somewhat “asiatic” and claimed that there is a written document regarding his ancestry kept by the head of a family. Well, and he could look intimidating.
 
The Danubian Principalities became major grain exporters by the mid 19th century. Controlling this trade as complement to rather than competitor to Russia's own Black Sea grain trade could potentially be very valuable.
Possessing a big merchant fleet and enough of a capital would do the controlling trick and, anyway, the war will be more costly and, short of the direct annexation how are you going to control their exports if they are independent states?
 
Possessing a big merchant fleet and enough of a capital would do the controlling trick and, anyway, the war will be more costly and, short of the direct annexation how are you going to control their exports if they are independent states?

All the more reason to "free" Greece and develop control over Greek merchant shipping! Of course things are spiraling out of control by this point and less and less likely to pay back their cost but one can see such ambitions developing in one circle or another.
 
All the more reason to "free" Greece and develop control over Greek merchant shipping! Of course things are spiraling out of control by this point and less and less likely to pay back their cost but one can see such ambitions developing in one circle or another.
These Greeks were the Russian subjects with no reason whatsoever for being “controlled” by some other state: this may be “patriotic” but would negatively impact their commercial operations. I was under the impression that in OTL they did not flee to the “liberated” Greece in any significant numbers or did too much along the line of its liberation. It was mostly NI and the Russian army fighting one more idiotic war.

As for the rest, Moldavia and Wallachia were the Ottoman vassals and without the Russian intervention would remain in that status for a much longer time than in OTL so I’m not sure what would spiral out of control. Anyway, AFAIK, throughout the XIX Odessa remained by far the most important grain export outlet on the Black Sea and I did not find any mentioning of Bulgaria and Rumania being among the world top exporters.
 
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I mean showing the number of kids Grandpa Temujin had might do the trick~
The size alone is intimidating enough 🤭
I suspect that these numbers are more than a little bit exaggerated (IIRC, the “theory” uses rather questionable source numbers and pretty much ignores and pretty much ignores unnatural deaths and other causes) and, anyway, the byproducts were not equally distributed around the world so don’t get too ambitious. 😃
 
These Greeks were the Russian subjects with no reason whatsoever for being “controlled” by some other state: this may be “patriotic” but would negatively impact their commercial operations. I was under the impression that in OTL they did not flee to the “liberated” Greece in any significant numbers or did too much along the line of its liberation. It was mostly NI and the Russian army fighting one more idiotic war.

As I understand it, Russia's Greek proteges were mostly from Chios and so had little to come home to after the 1822 massacre. The competing network for Black Sea trade was the Ionians, also briefly Russian proteges who might have returned to that status had things worked out a little differently. Under it's commercial treaty with the Ottomans, Russia had the right (in common with other European states) to grant the protection of its flag to foreigners and even Ottoman subjects like the Greeks, enabling them to trade under the concessionary terms granted to Russian subjects. The cynical move would be to keep the Balkan peoples in some sort of semi-independent state and in need of such protection.

As for the rest, Moldavia and Wallachia were the Ottoman vassals and without the Russian intervention would remain in that status for a much longer time than in OTL so I’m not sure what would spiral out of control. Anyway, AFAIK, throughout the XIX Odessa remained by far the most important grain export outlet on the Black Sea and I did not find any mentioning of Bulgaria and Rumania being among the world top exporters.
I don't know the stats but Romanian grain was considered important by the British, who got very worked up in the years preceding the Crimean War about Russia supposedly hindering access to the ports of the Danube Delta in order to reduce competition from this grain. These ports, incidentally, were under direct Ottoman rule until 1829, even though they were on the north side of the Danube along with the Principalities.
 
As I understand it, Russia's Greek proteges were mostly from Chios and so had little to come home to after the 1822 massacre. The competing network for Black Sea trade was the Ionians, also briefly Russian proteges who might have returned to that status had things worked out a little differently. Under it's commercial treaty with the Ottomans, Russia had the right (in common with other European states) to grant the protection of its flag to foreigners and even Ottoman subjects like the Greeks, enabling them to trade under the concessionary terms granted to Russian subjects. The cynical move would be to keep the Balkan peoples in some sort of semi-independent state and in need of such protection.


I don't know the stats but Romanian grain was considered important by the British, who got very worked up in the years preceding the Crimean War about Russia supposedly hindering access to the ports of the Danube Delta in order to reduce competition from this grain. These ports, incidentally, were under direct Ottoman rule until 1829, even though they were on the north side of the Danube along with the Principalities.
I’m afraid that we have a little bit of a misunderstanding. You are talking about OTL and I about TTL where Russia has its own merchant fleet on the Black Sea, part of which is owned by the “Russian Greeks”, and conducts its own trade on the Black Sea and the Med. As a result, its interests are different from those in OTL and at best the “Greek Greeks” are somewhat useful addition to the existing trade and at worst the competitors. Much more important would be the “Istanbul Greeks” who are handling trade operations in and around the Ottoman capital, a major consumer of the Russian exports.

As for the British bitching, the Brits of that time had been quite often bitching for the sake of bitching. Taking into an account that between 1815 and 1846 they had corn laws impeding the imports, sincerity of these complaints may be questioned. I’m not saying that there was no exports from the principalities, just that Odessa remained the biggest export port on the Black Sea and Russia was a much bigger grain exporter. Now, ITTL even this is not of the same importance as in OTL because alt-Russia is an active exporter of a wider nomenclature of goods, including the manufactured ones.
 
As for the British bitching, the Brits of that time had been quite often bitching for the sake of bitching. Taking into an account that between 1815 and 1846 they had corn laws impeding the imports, sincerity of these complaints may be questioned. I’m not saying that there was no exports from the principalities, just that Odessa remained the biggest export port on the Black Sea and Russia was a much bigger grain exporter. Now, ITTL even this is not of the same importance as in OTL because alt-Russia is an active exporter of a wider nomenclature of goods, including the manufactured ones.

Indeed, I have no particular opinion on the validity, if any, of the British complaint; I bring it up because it shows that the grain trade from Romania was of sufficient volume to attract such interest.
 
Indeed, I have no particular opinion on the validity, if any, of the British complaint; I bring it up because it shows that the grain trade from Romania was of sufficient volume to attract such interest.
Well, probably a more precise timing of that complaint is important. If it is pre-1846, it is a pure demagoguery. Otherwise, it may be of some practical value but keep in mind that until the CW the Russian BSF had been in a full control of the sea and could stop traffic at will. In 1820s and in the early 1800s there was Russian blockade of the Bosphorus. So the conquest of the Principalities was not a “must” even in OTL (I’m not sure who was more screwed by the Russian policies there, the Ottomans or the Austrians) and even less so ITTL with the Ottomans being a close ally.
 
Well, probably a more precise timing of that complaint is important. If it is pre-1846, it is a pure demagoguery. Otherwise, it may be of some practical value but keep in mind that until the CW the Russian BSF had been in a full control of the sea and could stop traffic at will. In 1820s and in the early 1800s there was Russian blockade of the Bosphorus. So the conquest of the Principalities was not a “must” even in OTL (I’m not sure who was more screwed by the Russian policies there, the Ottomans or the Austrians) and even less so ITTL with the Ottomans being a close ally.
I'm away from my materials right now and can't check but I believe it started pre 1846 and continued. Russia wasn't properly maintaining the main Sulina channel of the river to the grain ports, it's quarantine rules weren't compatible with the Vienna convention on rivers, blah blah blah. I haven't seen any evaluation of the validity or lack thereof.
 
Family business
193. Family business

“Our family is provided for. I have sent to them everything that they can want.”
“I can have no relations in obscurity. Those who do not rise with me shall no longer form part of my family.”
“I do not believe that any man in the world is more unfortunate in his family than I am.”

Napoleon
«Как станешь представлять к крестишку иль к местечку, Ну как не порадеть родному человечку!»[1]
Грибоедов

With the war of 1805-06 (nicknamed “War against Partition”) being convincingly won, reputation of Napoleon Bonaparte and his position in the Russian Empire had been firmly established. Now he was a bona fide national hero and his name, pronounced as “Na pole on” (“he is on a [battle]field”), got something of a quasi-religious meaning as a victory symbol. A habit of appearing on public (except when demanded by protocol) in a simple field uniform wearing the minimal required set of the awards (St. Andrew, St. George of the 1st and 2nd class [2] and a commemorative medal for Königgrätz), with the glittering uniforms of his staff serving as a background, was underscoring the hero’s greatness. Of course, the Generalissimo, being a very fast learner, never missed a chance to praise the Emperor’s diplomatic and strategic skills and invaluable help with having an army well-provided or to jokingly reprimand him for the “excessive bravery” at Königgrätz when he, while observing a battlefield, rode dangerously close to the Austrian front line for which occasion Bonaparte awarded Alexander St. George 4th class [3] right on the spot, an award which Alexander was now proudly wearing (on the portrait below, the white cross with orange-black ribbon, first in the row ).
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On his side, Alexander, who never forgot that “the King is played by his following”, was highly complementary of his Generalissimo: after all, an ability to choose the right people tells a lot about a monarch. The lesser personages also were getting their share of the congratulations and awards, the poets had been writing the odes, and mutual patting on the backs was going on.

Besides all this fanfare, the Generalissimo became a very rich person. He got palace in Moscow, a summer palace near Moscow, big profitable estates in the Southern Russia, a huge guaranteed annual income from the state (“arenda”) and a share in some state-owned enterprises. All that on a top of the generalissimo’s salary and a huge one-time “bonus” out of the reparation money [4].
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The family. Now, both socially and financially, he was in a good position to take care of his family. Of course, Josephine with her children was with him. Eugene was admitted into the Chevalier Guard Regiment, the most prestigious regiment of the Russian army and during the last war served, with some distinction, as Barclay’s aid [5] and now was made imperial fligel-adjutant so his further career was pretty much guaranteed.
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Hortense was made-in-waiting of the Empress, which (together with her step-father’s and mother’s social status) made her an enviable potential bride. Even if she was not the most attractive girl in the Russian Empire, this was more than abundantly compensated by her other “assets” and marriage in the top ranks of the Russian aristocracy could be considered. [6]

Which left the family in France with which the Generalissmo maintained close connections. Now, this part was rather tricky:
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  • Joseph, with some help from his brother-in-law, became President of the Senate and, obviously, did not need help from his brother.​
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  • Lucien, after serving for few years as an ambassador to the court of Charles IV of Spain, was looking for a position of either deputy of the Foreign Minister or an ambassador to the “top tier” European court including Russian. If he declined both options, position of a Senator was open to him. Obviously, he did not need any help either but, if he chose an ambassadorial position in Moscow, this could produce an interesting situation.​
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  • Louis Bonaparte was, so far, making a reasonably good but not too remarkable military career making it into a captain by 1803 and since then promoted to a major. He did not ask his influential relatives for help and seemingly had rather realistic assessment of his abilities. However, as far as Generalissimo was concerned, this lowly status of his brother could be somewhat inconvenient for him and, after testing the water with the Emperor, Napoleon offered Louis to go to the Russian service: rank of a captain in the Life Guards and position of a fligel-adjutant for a young (Louis was 28 years old) officer could be considered a good social status. A baronial title can be given to him or the King of Sweden can be asked for a small favor (as soon as Louis becomes the Russian subject, a foreign title automatically becomes valid). From this starting point he will be able either to continue military career or to switch to the civilian one starting as “Чиновник по особым поручениям” (official at large) at one of the ministries or being assigned in that role to one of the governors.​
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  • Then was the embarrassing case, Jerome. He was serving in the Navy in the West India and caused a considerable commotion by opening fire on a British ship after the peace was signed. To avoid the repercussions he fled north to the United States under an assumed name of Mr. Albert, where he planned to remain until the dust settles. While there, he amassed considerable debts and was nearly in a duel due to ruining at least one lady's honor. Upon the boast by an old naval friend that Baltimore had the most beautiful women in the U.S., he made his way to the city where he met Elizabeth Patterson, daughter of the second wealthiest man in the U.S. according to Thomas Jefferson and reportedly the most beautiful woman in Baltimore. On Christmas Eve, 24 December 1803, nineteen-year-old Jérôme married Elizabeth Patterson, who herself was only eighteen. The wedding was conducted against her father's wishes; William Patterson had received an anonymous letter before the wedding which detailed Jérôme's womanizing, his massive debts, and his plans to use the marriage only as a way to stay in style in the U.S. until he could return to his family in France. He was still there and neither Joseph nor Napoleon were quite sure if they want him in France or Russia. OTOH, his continued staying in the US and a scandalous marriage also were quite embarrassing.​

Then came the womenfolk:
  • Mme Letizia definitely was not a problem and it was entirely up to her to pick her future residence. Of course, it was not expected that she will be conducting excessively active social life in Moscow but she could be presented at court and after that live relatively quiet.​
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  • Elisa was already married to Felice Pasquale Baciocchi, presently a brigadier general of the French army, held an artistic and literary salon at the Hôtel de Brissac and, seemingly, had been quite happy in Paris.


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  • Pauline - Napoleon married her to General Charles Leclerc in French-occupied Milan on 14 June 1797. Napoleon returned to Paris and delegated the office of commander-in-chief of the French army in Italy to his brother-in-law. Pauline gave birth to a boy, Dermide Louis Napoleon, on 20 April 1798. In celebration, General Leclerc acquired a property outside Novellara worth 160,000 French francs. Ill-health forced Leclerc to resign from his military post in October of the same year; he was transferred to Paris. Leclerc was again relocated upon arrival, this time to Brittany. Pauline stayed in Paris with Dermide. In 1802 Leclerc died leaving Pauline a widow with a little child. She inherited 700,000 francs in liquid capital and assets from Leclerc and for a while had been staying with Joseph but then acquired Hôtel Charost from the duchess to whom it belonged. Her son died in 1804. Taking into an account her rather extravagant tastes, it was just a matter of time when she starts asking her brothers for money so the prudent thing will be to get her married again to somebody rich enough to pay for the pleasure of having her as a wife. Moscow looked as a more promising market of the titled and rich candidates so the task was to convince her to relocate. She was quite loyal to Napoleon so this did not look as an impossible task.
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  • Caroline was infatuated with Murat before he left for Egypt so now she could come and marry him. Napoleon did not mind and Josephine, by whatever reason, thought that this will be a wonderful idea. Invitation had been sent and the happy groom was preparing himself to get married.
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  • Berthier went severely ill during imprisonment in Naples and, while he somewhat recuperated, his hearing was seriously impaired and his condition would not allow the inconveniences related to the active field duty. He was doomed to the desk job in the Ministry of War where Barclay made him a head of one of the departments.
  • Lannes almost immediately made himself a rising military star. He served under Barclay and ended the war as commander of an army corps distinguishing himself both in Prussian and Austrian campaign. He was now a lieutenant-general with a good chance for being promoted into the full general at the next opportunity. He was married in 1795 to Paulette Méric, whom he divorced “remotely” [7] , after she had given birth to an illegitimate son while he was serving in Egypt. His second marriage was arranged remotely by the friends in France. He married by proxy to Louise Antoinette, Comtesse de Guéhéneuc, a daughter of the financierFrançois Scholastique, Count of Guéhéneuc, and the sister of general Charles Louis Joseph Olivier, Count of Guéhéneuc, who came to join him in Moscow and, surprisingly, the marriage was a happy one.
  • Murat’s raise was slower but he also raised to the rank of lieutenant general and distinguished himself as a commander of a cavalry corps. He was not considered a great (or any) strategist but was clearly superb in conducting the massive cavalry charges. The subordinates adored his flamboyant style so fitting for a dashing cavalry commander.
  • Mortier was not doing that well and could not raise above the level of a division commander. After a couple of disappointments Bonaparte made him his “general on duty” [8], a duty which he performed much more competently.

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[1] “When it comes to awarding an order or a good position, Well, how not to do something for your relative!” Griboedov
[2] Unlike other Russian awards, those awarded St. George had been wearing all degrees and not only the highest awarded.
[3] In OTL, judging by the timing, he got it for Austerlitz. To avoid (understandable) sniggering, the 4th class could be given for a personal bravery on a battlefield and even, as was the case later with NII, for being present somewhere in the zone shelled by the enemy so Alexander in OTL was qualified. In the early XIX a greater exposure to the danger was required. Anyway, it was a convenient substitute for “look, I’m cool” tattooed on a forehead and being close to the enemy in a major victorious battle surely was a qualifier for an emperor (who was not supposed to led a charge or get into hand-to-hand combat). 😜
[4] In OTL monetary awards paid for 1812-14 campaigns amounted to few millions. ITTL Russia is in a better financial situation than in OTL where the Napoleonic wars ended with a big budgetary deficit.
[5] Before his position was firmly established, it was reasonable for Bonaparte to have his former subordinates (and relatives) not under his direct command and to play “as Russian as it gets” (just as CII did). The same goes other way around: to have themselves firmly established in the new country, they had to prove their own merits rather then being just somebody’s proteges (of course, there was nothing wring with having a powerful connection but a personal merit was highly valued in the army). Anyway, serving under Barclay was removing any suspicions in protectionism because he had a well-deserved reputation of an extremely honest person and position of his aid was not a sinecure: in a battle he usually was staying well within the artillery range, was wounded numerous times, and there were high losses both among his aids and his horses (in OTL at Borodino he had 5 or 6 horses killed under him).
[6] As far as the Russian aristocracy goes, there were two “mutually-inclusive” groups:
  • The first was the historic aristocracy only few members of which held high court, military or administrative positions or simply were rich enough to “matter”. Most of them had been gradually dwindling into an obscurity with a chance to get back to prominence by a personal merit. The system of inheritance (title and property) being shared between all children was contributing to the financial demise of these families. Short of a complete obscurity, members of these families were a part of the “society” and the family links, even remote, remained quite important in the Russian society so these people still had been “valuable”. However, the top members of that group had almost guaranteed high court positions (aka, direct access to the Emperor) and usually still possessed a very significant wealth.​
  • The second was aristocracy by merit: the relatively new families/individuals who raised to the high ranks due to the service or some “cause” (emperor’s personal favor by whatever reason). For these people getting connections among the “historic” families was important: the extensive family ties were improving social life and could provide additional connections with other important people.​
[7] Thanks to the wonderful innovations of the French Republic this was a civilian marriage and, even if Lannes was in Russia, the good relations with his former colleagues allowed to fill all necessary papers remotely.
[8] In the Russian imperial army the general on duty was responsible for issues related to the combat, rear, military-sanitary, military-police and military-judicial services. In OTL position was created only in 1812.
 
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