No end to the British Empire. Two superpowers USA and UK

RousseauX

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-Extension of the Commonwealth to western European allies with free movement of goods, capital and people. (the Dominions can't refuse an offer like this one)
Why wouldn't it? What if I'm Canada or Belgium and I want to put up tariffs?
 

amphibulous

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Why wouldn't it? What if I'm Canada or Belgium and I want to put up tariffs?

Then the Queen orders the Imperial Football Association to schedule an unrelenting series of Manchester United and Arsenal games in Bruges, and the British ambassador invites you to an endless series of dinners at which you'll have to eat Rubber Duck In Orange sauce, followed by Lead Sponge Pudding in Burning Red Jam. Or worse, Very Hot Cury.

You'll come around, believe me.
 
Then the Queen orders the Imperial Football Association to schedule an unrelenting series of Manchester United and Arsenal games in Bruges, and the British ambassador invites you to an endless series of dinners at which you'll have to eat Rubber Duck In Orange sauce, followed by Lead Sponge Pudding in Burning Red Jam. Or worse, Very Hot Cury.

You'll come around, believe me.

I accept your challenge.
 

amphibulous

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Originally Posted by amphibulous
Then the Queen orders the Imperial Football Association to schedule an unrelenting series of Manchester United and Arsenal games in Bruges, and the British ambassador invites you to an endless series of dinners at which you'll have to eat Rubber Duck In Orange sauce, followed by Lead Sponge Pudding in Burning Red Jam. Or worse, Very Hot Cury.

You'll come around, believe me.



I accept your challenge.

Very well: your lead sponge pudding in VHC will be served as soon as you've finished eating your Rubber Duck...
 
Suppress Indian independence with utter savagery and making maximum use of divide and conquor. Absorb the remaining princely states.

The massive Indian Army might have something to say about this. Y'know, the one that Britain depended on to handle a lot of matters east of Suez?
 
Japan's decline was not some accident of history or because of some unique flaw in the Japanese system, it's decline was inevitable due to the natural decline in economic growth as income per capita increases (incidentally the exact same reason why Britain's growth could not match that of lesser developed countries in the late 19th-early 20th century). Having the expectation of Japanophobes of 1980s beign fullfilled which is based on the idea of x% of annual GDP growth forever into the future is just as ASBish as anything else.
Disagree with you there.
Its growth slowing and it not taking over the world as the scaremongers in the 80s said- yes, that was pretty inevitable for the reasons you say.
The bubble forming and popping and the country declining- that was not inevitable.

This is bad logic.

1. The Japanese economy was always over-rated

2. Japan is much bigger than the UK

3. Japan did not succeed

4. Japan was an economic power only; its success was partly built on not carrying a major defense burden - and a superpower by definition has enormous military strength

1: Yet still good.

2: Not so much so in terms of useful land. Japan is a huge country but most of it is mountains. (doing some quick checking and maths- its 'usable size' is 79,380km^2. Not too much bigger than Ireland. ) Not that size matters too much. Its only really a limiter when you're talking about the truly small Hong Kongs and Singapores of this world.

3: It did. Japan remains a very rich country. It didn't take over but its collapse was down to mistakes rather than it being natural.

4: Economics are the number one important thing. A superpower need not have enourmous military strength. You;'re thinking too OTLy.
 
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frlmerrin

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The massive Indian Army might have something to say about this. Y'know, the one that Britain depended on to handle a lot of matters east of Suez?

It isn't a single entity you use Moslem to put down Sikh, Hindu to put down Christian, Burman to put down Dekani and so on. All the BIA will ever say is 'Yes Sir' or its individual revolting elements will once again find thier entrails blown skyward from the muzzle of a gun.

As for India itself a few well timed large famines where the 'good' provinces get fed and 'naughty' provinces become charnal houses will work fine as the approach has worked for thousands of years around the world.

Contrive to blame the famines on the USA, lack of aid, control of global shipping for profit whatever and look paternal whilst suppressing opposition for bonus points.
 
It isn't a single entity you use Moslem to put down Sikh, Hindu to put down Christian, Burman to put down Dekani and so on. All the BIA will ever say is 'Yes Sir' or its individual revolting elements will once again find thier entrails blown skyward from the muzzle of a gun.

As for India itself a few well timed large famines where the 'good' provinces get fed and 'naughty' provinces become charnal houses will work fine as the approach has worked for thousands of years around the world.

Contrive to blame the famines on the USA, lack of aid, control of global shipping for profit whatever and look paternal whilst suppressing opposition for bonus points.

You seem to be back projecting. Though there were of course tensions between the various groups you mention, by the 1910s to 20s a unified Indian identity had crystallised specifically in opposition to the British. As we can see from OTL, this only really fully lasted until the British left but it will be a factor in any pre Independence scenario.

Also I think you're doing Britain a disservice. The Raj was racist and exploitative but it wasn't the Netherlands or Imperial Germany. The Raj wouldn't be able to pull off something as brutal and outright tyrannical as you propose without massive opposition back home
 
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