No Ebert-Groener deal

(I asked this question elsewhere, but was informed of the existence of this sub-discussion forum and decided to re-post here)

I'm new to this board, really fascinated by the different threads here. I've got a question, one that's of particular interest to me as I studied Germany 1918-1945 in my a level history (for Muricans, that's basically High school).

So the question I have is: a lot of people here believe (credibly imo) that the KPD never stood a chance of succeeding in Germany primarily because of their split with the SPD at the start, following the deal Ebert made with the army under Groener to restore stability and the subsequent suppression of the Spartacists in January 1919. Let's say the POD ITL is that Ebert is less paranoid, makes no such deal, carries out a more through purge of the army, meaning there are no resentful conservatives (think Hindenburg and Bruning) to pounce when the Great Depression hits. Without the ensuing bitterness and divide between the KPD and SPD, are they able to work together to prevent a Nazi takeover, and if so what are the ramifications?
 
Thorough purges themselves foster resentments. This could exacerbate the bitterness and divides, as well as enhancing right-wing militias.
 
I think there are interesting butterflies well before the Nazis are people of any significance. One thing which occurs to me is that the monarchist-nostalgic reactionaries in Weimar Germany (who were very significant, all throughout the establishment, including the judiciary as well as the better-known matter of the military) might try to play rough, even without Ebert's blessing. They weren't exactly moderate people; we're talking about the sort of virulently nasty rightists who regarded Weimar Republicans as "rats" and "traitors", let alone the actual socialists. There was a sizeable body of 'respectable' conservative opinion, even before Nazi times, which considered it decent to routinely give murderers lessened sentences if they claimed to be acting from nationalist motives. I've long argued that, if we didn't get a fascist Germany, the likeliest alternative outcome wasn't a communist takeover (communist-Nazi crossover is exaggerated IMO), it's a takeover by the DNVP-esque authoritarian conservatives. And indeed, given the un-democratic practices of the clique around Hindenburg, one can argue that such a takeover did happen, the Nazis just hijacked it before it was complete.

If the Spartacist struggle lasts longer and it looks like there's a genuine revolutionary situation in Germany—which would be a very real concern, given that the Bolshevik revolution in Russia wasn't an abstract historical event, it was something happening right now—and the far right think that the SPD are preventing them from going out into the street and cracking skulls like they want to, some of them might come to regard the SPD as the semi-respectable political arm of the Spartacists, like Sinn Fein to the IRA. i.e. the Spartacists break stuff and riot, while Ebert and his slimy SPD politicians help them to seize power by pretending to conform to the political system and ordering good honest Germans not to crack down on these subversive red thugs. That's obviously nonsense, of course, but when has that ever stopped insane far-right conspiracy-theories before?

If a substantial portion of the reactionary right is seen openly attempting to overthrow the Republic at its very foundation, like a sort of Kapp-before-Kapp, that might have considerable ramifications long before the Great Depression. Perhaps the pro-republican parties being more wary of the far right, and maybe even (dare one hope?) cracking down on the anti-republican elements of German society that had been inherited from Imperial Germany.

I don't know nearly as much about the period as many people here. I just wanted to throw this idea out there.
 

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The KPD never stood a chance. The only chance the SPD really stood was to get the Heer’s state-within-a-state more onside rather than less. Somehow you need a PoD where the SPD makes a better bond with the Heer, not a worse one with purges and senior officers removed from their posts.
 
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