No Democratic Party in the North after 1860 replaced by Farm and Union Party

What if the Nothern Democrats decided that with secession the Democratic Party name was too linked to treason for them to be associated with it and decide to form a new party in the North called the Farm and Union Party with the following platform which is considerably different in some ways from OTL Democratic Party but very simular in others.
1) Popular sovereignty in the territories as regards to slavery
2) Strictly enforced FSL
3) Blacks are banned from entering the Northern States or the western territories
4) Backs the Homestead Act but bars all Southerners who haven't joined the Union Army from taking advantage of it. Will offer to allow it as part of negotiated peace.
5) Backs the Department of Agriculture and even has it loan money to people taking advantage of the Homestead Act but bars Southerners with the same condtions as 4.
6) No draft
7) Against the EP after 1862
8) Against the 13th admendment after 1864
9) Is willling to go along with the intercontinental railroad bill if there is a seperate clause providing funding for irrigation projects. Southerners barred from irrigation loans with the same conditions as 4.
10) For negotiations with the South to end the war on the basis of reunion.
 
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Anyone else think this could end up in their being a three party system in the US? Republican vs Farm and Union in the North and the Democratic Party in the South.
 
My guess is that they would be against them as they would be primarily a rural based party.

Does not bode well for their electoral chances then. After all this was the time where corporate and other private donations made up to 75% of a candidates electoral war chest
 
Does not bode well for their electoral chances then. After all this was the time where corporate and other private donations made up to 75% of a candidates electoral war chest

Quite a few Western states had little industrialization and plenty of farmers. It could well help them out west.
 
I think that the party would have a considerable amount of strength in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa and all the Mountain States along with the Southwestern States. Can people think of any other possible strongholds for the Farm and Union Party?
 
What about if Andrew Johnson decides that he's a 'democrat' instead of a member of the 'constitutional union' party? And then he gets successfully removed from office by the Republican party, leading to a collapse in confidence of the former democrats?
 
I doubt that a Northern farmer/rural party would be against abolitionism. The existence of slave labor means that small farmers and rural laborers would have to compete against slave labor.

They'd also probably wouldn't be conservative. Rural America was not a reactionary bastion in this period, and it really didn't get conservative until after the Second World War.
 
I doubt that a Northern farmer/rural party would be against abolitionism. The existence of slave labor means that small farmers and rural laborers would have to compete against slave labor.
That would no longer matter after 1865 as the 13th admendment freed all slaves anyways. Once it is actually ratified it would be dropped from the platform as what would be the point?
 
I think that the party would have a considerable amount of strength in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa and all the Mountain States along with the Southwestern States. Can people think of any other possible strongholds for the Farm and Union Party?

The Southern states, assuming they still lose the Civil War and that the North still tires of Reconstruction. They won't want to be associated with the Party of Lincoln, which leaves only this Farm and Union Party. But the Southern delegations are still going to be pretty different from the Northern ones (though they'll agree on many of the pro-agrarian stuff). So like the post-Civil War Democrats, it'll be a big and somewhat awkward coalition.
 
The Southern states, assuming they still lose the Civil War and that the North still tires of Reconstruction. They won't want to be associated with the Party of Lincoln, which leaves only this Farm and Union Party. But the Southern delegations are still going to be pretty different from the Northern ones (though they'll agree on many of the pro-agrarian stuff). So like the post-Civil War Democrats, it'll be a big and somewhat awkward coalition.

I was thinking more a three party system, Republicans in the urban North, Farm and Union in the rural North and the West and the Democrats in the South.
 
I was thinking more a three party system, Republicans in the urban North, Farm and Union in the rural North and the West and the Democrats in the South.

If that happens, I think you'd still wind up with a fusion ticket between the Farm & Union and Democrats at the Presidential level. After all, the Democrats can't get an E.C. majority with just the South, and the Farm & Union can't get an E.C. majority without the South (whereas the GOP can get a majority most of the time without those states, just as in OTL). Though if for whatever reason they didn't align for Presidential elections, you'd probably see some elections go to Congress.
 
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If that happens, I think you'd still wind up with a fusion ticket between the Farm & Union and Democrats at the Presidential level. After all, the Democrats can't get an E.C. majority with just the South, and the Farm & Union can't get an E.C. majority without the South (whereas the GOP can get a majority most of the time without those states, just as in OTL). Though if for whatever reason they didn't align for Presidential elections, you'd probably see some elections go to Congress.

Point taken, I think that is quite likely.
 
If that happens, I think you'd still wind up with a fusion ticket between the Farm & Union and Democrats at the Presidential level. After all, the Democrats can't get an E.C. majority with just the South, and the Farm & Union can't get an E.C. majority without the South (whereas the GOP can get a majority most of the time without those states, just as in OTL). Though if for whatever reason they didn't align for Presidential elections, you'd probably see some elections go to Congress.

Hmmmm, well who would stand a better chance of getting the President they wanted through Congress than through the EC?
 
Hmmmm, well who would stand a better chance of getting the President they wanted through Congress than through the EC?

All three candidates will go to the Contingent Election, unless there's a spoiler like Weaver who takes third place instead. It's possible, even likely that no one party will have a majority of state delegations in the House or Senate. I'm guessing there would be some negotiating between the parties for support (probably trading the Presidency for cabinet offices and patronage control). In the near-term I guess it's more likely that Farm & Union benefits, since the Democrats would prefer Farm & Union to a Republican and the Republicans would probably prefer Farm & Union to a Democrat.
 
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