No Communism in China

But I think that in order to get there, one would need a fairly early POD, say before 1916; after the Warlord Era began, the Japanese wrote off the Nationalist regime as not worth the bother, and figured that China's lack of a working central government would enable them to satellize it one chunk at a time, starting with Manchuria.

This is a really, really, really interesting idea, and one that I've toyed with in the past. But I can't see just how you get there.
 
He just might pull it off

Considering we tolerated a lot from the KMT as is, in the name of Anti communism, What if Chang fullfulled the promise he made of democratization after the period of tutalge?
In 1960, he offered a second constutuional convention follwing the defeat of the communists. I know the man was no angel, but I think he just might have laided back on the reigns of power like Rawlings in Ghana if Mao and his pals went away
 
Japan keeps Korea and Taiwan (and eventually gets Hong Kong, Hainan and Macau), China gets Manchuria, both countries jointly expand into Siberia. Japan retains a great deal of influence throughout the Chinese economy, and Japanese corporations/Zaibatsu basically run the industrial and resource sectors in Manchuria. This provides revenue, employment, industrialisation, and modern technology to China, and Japan gets resources, expanded manufacturing capability, and large profits.

Win-win.

Unless the Nationalists are complete puppets they'd certainly want Taiwan back.
 

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Considering we tolerated a lot from the KMT as is, in the name of Anti communism, What if Chang fullfulled the promise he made of democratization after the period of tutalge?
In 1960, he offered a second constutuional convention follwing the defeat of the communists. I know the man was no angel, but I think he just might have laided back on the reigns of power like Rawlings in Ghana if Mao and his pals went away


Nah, Chiang would be happy with his military/ one- party dictatorship. China would slowly develop towards democracy in the 80s, when Chiang has been out of the picture for quite a while. Still, the Kuomintang would win every election, because that would just be the way China works.
 
Taiwan isn't worth losing an alliance with the Japanese over, the KMT aren't stupid. And the Japanese need it for their navy, so it is a deal breaker.

actually thats true the only reason otl china makes such a deal about it is because 2 countrys named china looks stupid on a map.

afterall chaing gave up northern china allready and if he is willing to do that he proberly doesnt care about some island off the east coast.
 
actually thats true the only reason otl china makes such a deal about it is because 2 countrys named china looks stupid on a map.

afterall chaing gave up northern china allready and if he is willing to do that he proberly doesnt care about some island off the east coast.

Then some Nationalists might mount a coup to overthrow Chiang and replace him with a more Anti-Japanese man.
 
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