No British colonies in America

It would be quite a lot easier to let Britain have some colonies, but much more limited than in OTL, maybe if force "orthodocy" on them like French, which only premitted Catholic settlers, let's say Britain only premit High Anglican settlers, and keep much more tight control with their colonies, the result that they only get Virginia, and it become something much more like Quebec than the Commonwealth.

That's an interesting idea. That the British colonies were so full of people who were not wanted in and didn't want the mother country gave them their strength, in many ways, which you could call the most basic root of the American Revolution. If Britain's policies were like those of France...

Or France's like those of Britain... Huguenot *USA, anyone?
 
It would be quite a lot easier to let Britain have some colonies, but much more limited than in OTL, maybe if force "orthodocy" on them like French, which only premitted Catholic settlers, let's say Britain only premit High Anglican settlers, and keep much more tight control with their colonies, the result that they only get Virginia, and it become something much more like Quebec than the Commonwealth.

Like I Blame Communism said this is interesting. And I believe it would cause a lot of problem at home, as the people who don't like the British government, religion or society are forced to stay in Britain.
Would seeing the hated enemies flourishing in tiny colonies overseas and at home, make these people more likely to start a revolution in Britain rather than in a British colony?
 
Like I Blame Communism said this is interesting. And I believe it would cause a lot of problem at home, as the people who don't like the British government, religion or society are forced to stay in Britain.
Would seeing the hated enemies flourishing in tiny colonies overseas and at home, make these people more likely to start a revolution in Britain rather than in a British colony?

I'd imagine they'd move, just not to America. Wild Geese and Huguenots and all that.
 

Valdemar II

Banned
That's an interesting idea. That the British colonies were so full of people who were not wanted in and didn't want the mother country gave them their strength, in many ways, which you could call the most basic root of the American Revolution. If Britain's policies were like those of France...

Or France's like those of Britain... Huguenot *USA, anyone?

Ithink a split between a French Canada and Louisiana, a English South, and Dutch North is most likely, without the English to throw the Dutch out, they will keep the coast between Maryland and Canada and likely succesfull spread inland, there's a good chance that they will even gain Canada (New Netherland will be heavier populated, even with the same emigration from Europe as French Canada), because of the better climate.
 

Valdemar II

Banned
Like I Blame Communism said this is interesting. And I believe it would cause a lot of problem at home, as the people who don't like the British government, religion or society are forced to stay in Britain.
Would seeing the hated enemies flourishing in tiny colonies overseas and at home, make these people more likely to start a revolution in Britain rather than in a British colony?

They wouldn't be force to stay in Britain, like the Hugonout, they will likely end up emigrating/flee to more friendly places in Europe. Beside the number of people America receive was quite small compared to Britains population, 40000 Puritans moved to the New World, while it was a significant number in the Americas, it's was under 1% of Britains population. It really wouldn't make a big difference on Britain if they stayed at home.
 
They wouldn't be force to stay in Britain, like the Hugonout, they will likely end up emigrating/flee to more friendly places in Europe. Beside the number of people America receive was quite small compared to Britains population, 40000 Puritans moved to the New World, while it was a significant number in the Americas, it's was under 1% of Britains population. It really wouldn't make a big difference on Britain if they stayed at home.
But I'm not thinking about merely the Puritans. How many Irish moved to the US? How many poor people with no prospects or hope in Britain went to the US either as indentured servants, or saved for as long as possible and bought a cheap ticket to America? How many radicals felt they had a better chance in the land of the free?
And if they are kept out of North and South America due to the other countries and colonies in the Americas basically refusing to accept the masses, where do they go? Australia, Africa, Asia? Would the other European countries welcome all the different people that moved to the Americas in OTL?
 

Valdemar II

Banned
But I'm not thinking about merely the Puritans. How many Irish moved to the US? How many poor people with no prospects or hope in Britain went to the US either as indentured servants, or saved for as long as possible and bought a cheap ticket to America? How many radicals felt they had a better chance in the land of the free?
And if they are kept out of North and South America due to the other countries and colonies in the Americas basically refusing to accept the masses, where do they go? Australia, Africa, Asia? Would the other European countries welcome all the different people that moved to the Americas in OTL?

Most of those moved in the 19th century, not earlier where these effect could be felt. Likely the people you menrion will move to the different European colonies in the 19th century, New France and New Netherland will likely be the primary immigration targets, while Virginia grow into a English Brazil.
 
Most of those moved in the 19th century, not earlier where these effect could be felt. Likely the people you menrion will move to the different European colonies in the 19th century, New France and New Netherland will likely be the primary immigration targets, while Virginia grow into a English Brazil.
Fair enough.
But what if the best parts and a lot of the mediocre parts of North and South America in the late 18th and 19th century is already filled up with Strong Natives and various non-English colonists that are more repressive then Britain?
 
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