If the black Death had never developed (or at least never reached the west) and had never killed a large part of the population of northern Europe, how would these kingdoms have reacted to high population pressure and colder climate? New raids in Europe? Invasion of central or Eastern Europe? Earlier colonization of the Americas?
 
If the black Death had never developed (or at least never reached the west) and had never killed a large part of the population of northern Europe, how would these kingdoms have reacted to high population pressure and colder climate? New raids in Europe? Invasion of central or Eastern Europe? Earlier colonization of the Americas?

The Viking Age precede the Black Death by several centuries. Are you asking if Scandinavia would have a second Viking Age?
 
Did the Peace of God extend to the Orthodox? Conquest, conversion, and colonization of the Rus may not be out of the question for a europe facing too much demographic pressure.
 
How would the absence of the Black Death result in a colder climate?
The Medieval Warm Period ended at about the same time that the Black Death (and other disasters) reduced Europe's population. OP's not implying that one leads to the other, but rather that one will still happen even if the other doesn't.
 
An expedition to Vinland was actually ordered just before the Plague struck. Due to the chaos and lack of record keeping that followed we do not know if it actually ever set out. They were supposed to track down the inhabitants of the Western Settlement who was assumed to have reverted to paganism and fled to Vinland.

Greenlanders were generally considered to be difficult people, always on the edge of reverting to paganism.

I could see an ATL where the expedition set out, never found the settlers but came back with reports of large, warm lands. Given a big population surplus it could be an alternative to Siberia.
 
How would the absence of the Black Death result in a colder climate?
The colder climate is due to the end of the medieval warm period, this period created the confiti
An expedition to Vinland was actually ordered just before the Plague struck. Due to the chaos and lack of record keeping that followed we do not know if it actually ever set out. They were supposed to track down the inhabitants of the Western Settlement who was assumed to have reverted to paganism and fled to Vinland.

Greenlanders were generally considered to be difficult people, always on the edge of reverting to paganism.

I could see an ATL where the expedition set out, never found the settlers but came back with reports of large, warm lands. Given a big population surplus it could be an alternative to Siberia.
Nice idea, I assume that the first non Scandinavian country to receive the news would br England, given its economic ties with Norway
 

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Eventually, post-Christianized Scandinavia did figuratively "go Viking" again, in the form of the Swedish Empire. After all, wide ranging armies from Scandinavia pillaged and sacked large areas of northern Europe in the Thirty Years' War, the Deluge, and Swedish armies invaded across a massive area in the Great Northern War as well.

1350s Scandinavia has more in common with 1620s-1710s Scandinavia than that of the pagan era, so to recreate an expansionist Scandinavian power, then one could establish the material and organizational developments of the Swedish Empire earlier.

GulikW3.jpg
 
Nice idea, I assume that the first non Scandinavian country to receive the news would br England, given its economic ties with Norway

I don't think there would be that much interest. The European interest in faraway places and the view of them as profitable developed after Colombus heavily published vast exaggerations of the amounts of gold he found, and Spain subsequently lucked into massive amounts of silver and gold. Randomly proving his lies about riches to be true. Before that they were aware of places like Africa, Vinland, Siberia, Bjarmland etc, but not that interested.

But with sufficient population pressure, you might see an interest from the landless poor. Staring in Norway, where there was knowledge of sailing routes to Vinland, and access to ships. Then with reports coming back, and kinsmen to receive them, common people from the rest of Scandinavia might start a growing trickle. Kind of the opposite to the state-sponsored early Spanish and Portugese ventures. The colder climate might actually be an aid. I've thought that the Greenlanders didn't make a move on Vinland because they grew up with enormous amounts of empty lands that, during the medieval warm period wasn't that much worse than the Vinland territories they'd have to fight for. But with the cold climate, the competitiveness of Greenland was coming to an end.

Britain had population pressure too at the time. And fishermen from Bristol were probably aware of the Grand Banks around the time of Colombus. They would get in on it. Then the Hansa, who were at this point strong enough to take down Denmark in war, would become aware of this threat to their fish business. I think that's the time when the heads of state would suddenly take an interest in what had previously been a safety vent for the poor and landless. Now the Money! Taxes! and Political Advantage! Bells would be ringing.

Depending on how long that's taken, the settlers may have been there for generations and they may not be all that taken with the idea.
 
Eventually, post-Christianized Scandinavia did figuratively "go Viking" again, in the form of the Swedish Empire. After all, wide ranging armies from Scandinavia pillaged and sacked large areas of northern Europe in the Thirty Years' War, the Deluge, and Swedish armies invaded across a massive area in the Great Northern War as well.

1350s Scandinavia has more in common with 1620s-1710s Scandinavia than that of the pagan era, so to recreate an expansionist Scandinavian power, then one could establish the material and organizational developments of the Swedish Empire earlier.

GulikW3.jpg
They even invaded Denmark by moving their army across the frozen Baltic Sea.
 
The colder climate is due to the end of the medieval warm period, this period created the confiti

Nice idea, I assume that the first non Scandinavian country to receive the news would br England, given its economic ties with Norway
Also the Hanseatic League. German merchants had established themselves as an economic force within Norway. Maybe they try to break the Norwegian monopol.
 
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