Historically a lot the British capacity in terms of gun pits armour construction etc closed in 1929-1930. If building starts in 1931 many could stay open increasing capacity and decreasing shipyard costs in the UK.If there had been no Battleship holiday and replacement of older Battleships could begin 1931 though with the limits remaining as is, what effect would that have on the various fleets?
Not sure about the rest of the world, but in the US, you'd see all the Colorados completed. The New York, Nevada and Pennsylvania classes are likely replaced by the mid to late 30s with 25-27 knot 16" gunned battleships. Possibly even with 18" gunned ships by that point if there are no treaties limiting gun caliber. T.
Which limits? Just gun caliber? Or tonnage too? Cause if it's just gun caliber, all the SoDaks get built as well.Limits remain as is, the only change is building is allowed.
If there had been no Battleship holiday and replacement of older Battleships could begin 1931 though with the limits remaining as is, what effect would that have on the various fleets?
Is the OP not talking about the WNT build scheduled from 31 so the old ships are already long gone and the limit is 16"/35,000t?Which limits? Just gun caliber? Or tonnage too? Cause if it's just gun caliber, all the SoDaks get built as well.
What about limits on when ships can be replaced? Are those out the window or are nations only permitted to replace ships past a certain age?
Is the OP not talking about the WNT build scheduled from 31 so the old ships are already long gone and the limit is 16"/35,000t?
The world big three fleets would be on Jan 1 1937 when the treaty ended, (all letter ships are 16"/35,000t or under) http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-089_Washington_Naval_Limitation_Treaty_1922.htm
RN - C,D,E,F and G, with N&R (ships A+B), Hood, R&R, 5QE(or Rs depending on choice) for 15 ships with H,I,J,K,L building and potentially 2 Rs in the process of being scraped or to training ships?
USN - C,D,E,F and G, with 3x Colorado, 2xT, 3xNM, 2xP for 15 ships with H,I,J,K,L building and potentially 2x Navada in the process of being scraped or to training ships?
IJN - A,B and C with N&M, I&H and F&Y for 9 ships with D, E & F building (potentially overweight) and some of the Kongos as training ships to avoid scraping or swapped with the 14" BBs
This basically really helps the RN the most as it will massively over match the European threat early on in WWII.
From 1st Jan 37 they would all build more and faster than OTL due to more industry available from building the 10/10/6 new ships.
Good question depends on what part of the RN wins the argument and what others do, they will not be copies of N&R but apart from that anything could be done?What would the RN's new build look like, in 'Nelson to Vanguard' Brown mentions 16A - four twin 16", two forward and two aft with a speed of 23kts.
It looks like separate 6" and 4.7" secondaries, 6? bow 21" torpedo tubes with no mention of aircraft.
Somehow I doubt that. I think we're more likely to see 25-27 knots. Possibly more as the RN did seem to favor speed and firepower over armor.Hopefully not not all 10 ships laid down pre 1st JAN 1937 would be 23Kn ships.....