No Battle of Britain, Hitler´s Mediterranean gamble.

Astrodragon, not to mention Germany sending entire divisions while the British sent a few brigades. When the other side has 1-2 divisions for each of your brigades the battle can be problematical.

And what was that someone said about the distance from Basra to Indochina? Japanese industry won't get much use from oil in Saigon.
 
Look at the remains of the KM after Norway.
You dont get much more uncontested than that....

Norway itself is on land, or hadn't you noticed...a bit difficult to get a battleship up the side of a mountain....:p


Point is, Norway got occupied still, even 5 years later it still was. According to your logic, that should not have been possible in the first place, German forces gets isolated there will allies and Norwegians keeps getting ammo and reinforcements.

It would be pretty difficult to defend Norway from sea-born invasion with bayonettes, especially against battleship guns. :p
 
So it was all sunshine for Ukrainians?
Oh, by no means! I took the ref to be about SU only & ethnic Russians. I'd say the same about any Byelorussians, Ukranians, Poles, & ethnic Germans in SU prewar borders.
And to get back to the point, "Soviet" does not mean "Soviet establishment". "Soviets" is what citizens of the Soviet Union were, commies or not, dissidents or not, Russkiys or not, Red Army men or nor, Hiwis or not. I'd still be unable to escape from my status as a "British subject" if I wanted a Scottish republic.
I think we may be arguing semantics, here, rather than substance. I'm using "Soviet" in a narrower sense, the way I would "Nazi" as opposed to "German": party members & apparatchiki, not "Joe Public" (or, perhaps, Ivan Proletariat?;)). I'll agree, technically, Ivan Proletariat was a Soviet citizen, but I would call him Russian (or Ukranian, or whatever), the same as I would the average Stahlhelm, who wasn't a Nazi. Perhaps I should have said "Communist"?:(
 
Point is, Norway got occupied still, even 5 years later it still was. According to your logic, that should not have been possible in the first place, German forces gets isolated there will allies and Norwegians keeps getting ammo and reinforcements.

It would be pretty difficult to defend Norway from sea-born invasion with bayonettes, especially against battleship guns. :p

Stop putting words into my mouth I never said.

Denmark-Norway is a short shipping route completely covered by air power all the way, outside of allied air cover. hell, much of the route is even covered by coastal guns, plus minefileds in the way.

Now just HOW is this similar to the sea route from Japan to Basra, except in your rather odd idea of Geography????
 
Curious argument, Hitler declared war to the USA to support Japan but would not help Iran export oil to Japan, because Japan can´t pay in the immediate?

Grimm, thier massive occupation of Manchuria and parts of china must have yielded some iron mines no?

Nope, he knows that in this scenario, such would doom the british empire, hahaha doom! Thought, if I do a timeline about this, it will not be Germany that eventually annexe the british isles themselves.

And what was that someone said about the distance from Basra to Indochina? Japanese industry won't get much use from oil in Saigon.

You know very well who. When ya have oil in Saigon ya can ship to Japan pretty quick.

The inevitable steamroll argument? Because Japan having less industry than Italy! Yet, Iranian oil production and some from Iraq would not be enough? :rolleyes:
 
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World map of the post war world.

-After the plans for France where made, it was assumed the Italians would join the war against France once the the French where clearely beaten. A plan was drafted to take over Tunisia and maintain axis presence in Africa. Talks where opened with Italy over join preparations concerning Lybia.
-After the French armistice, these plans are changed into an attack against Egypt, all the while Hitler publicly boast that the Luftwaffen will soon destroy the RAF. In the UK, frantic preparations for the coming Luftwaffe offensive and an eventual invasion. Substantial German forces gathered in northern France. Vichy France shipping carries fuel and ammo while Italian shipping carry war equippement.
-Churchill realise the deception when Malta is seized by paratroopers and UK forces in Egypt, mostly near the Lybian border, are rooted by German attack.
-Instead of sending RAF units to Egypt, Churchill order bombing attack on German cities.
-Cairo invaded, Churchill decide to send all the reinforcements he can, by the time they arrive, Cairo has fallen and the Suez canal is crossed.
-Palestine face muslime revolt and jewish counter-revolt, Palestine and western Jordania falls before reinforcements through Kuwait. Axis forces goes north and join upp with besieged Vichy French forces. Syria and Lebanon becomes bases for German-Italian supplies. Spain declares war on axis side.
-Battle in Iraq between the UK and the Axis, Iraq sides with the axis.
-Operation Templar, offensive on Leningrad is reduced to baltic campaign, offensive on Moscow itself is reduced to a faint, while real attack open the way to the caucase. meanwhile, axis win in Iraq and push forces of the false imperium back to kuwait. Soviets does not dare attack Iran.
-Kuwait seized, extra efforts to increase oil production to support Japan. Britain leave sthe war, negociations begin.
-To increase oil production further, southern caucase is finally broken.
-Offensive against Moscow fails, total war mobilization starts.
-Leningrad push also fail.
-Iran join axis.

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Denmark-Norway is a short shipping route completely covered by air power all the way, outside of allied air cover. hell, much of the route is even covered by coastal guns, plus minefileds in the way.

Airpower? Mines? How could that have possibly stoped the might Royal navy?!?
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