No Atlantic Slave Trade

Two choices:
1. Through Pacific Ocean
2. The galleons will pass through he Straits of Magellan
Most likely it will be the visayans and cavitenos who will be shipped since they were the ones used for labor in Zamboanga in OTL, this might mean that the people of Central Luzon might remain Kapampangan.
 
You would end up with far more of African culture surviving in the New World. Likely many groups of indentured servants would be "ethnically streamed" to some degree, where people from one tribe in Africa would be recruited to travel to one plantation. As a result, African languages would jump to the New World fairly intact in places. Elsewhere you'd have a creole language develop because the labor pool would be so diverse that the European tongue of the plantation owners would be the only common bond, but there would likely be more African influence because there wouldn't be as much force behind the immediate expunging of African languages as there was IOTL.

I do think that Europeans would for the most part ask for their indentured servants to be at least nominally Christian during this time period. This would mean relatively little except there would not be a recruitment of laborers from Senegal and similar areas which had already become strongly Islamic.

I agree with this.
 

LordKalvert

Banned
The Slave Trade would continue (the African Kingdoms engaged in it for a lot of their own reasons) but the slaves would change destinations.

Without the Europeans bidding on them, the price would fall and the Africans may have kept more themselves. The Arabs would continue to buy them up. They bought a lot of the women but could still find a use for males especially if the prices dropped.

So a more powerful Ottoman Empire is likely. With male slaves being cheaper, they are imported to North Africa. Some are used building a much more powerful Ottoman fleet that continues to control the Mediterranean and ravage the coastal powers.

After the Thirty Years War destroys European powers, the Turks seize their chance and attack the survivors. Italy falls quickly followed by the Austrians. With Ottoman power now supreme, the survivors either quickly become Ottoman vassals or are easily overrun. Europe turns Muslim
 
The Slave Trade would continue (the African Kingdoms engaged in it for a lot of their own reasons) but the slaves would change destinations.

Without the Europeans bidding on them, the price would fall and the Africans may have kept more themselves. The Arabs would continue to buy them up. They bought a lot of the women but could still find a use for males especially if the prices dropped.

So a more powerful Ottoman Empire is likely. With male slaves being cheaper, they are imported to North Africa. Some are used building a much more powerful Ottoman fleet that continues to control the Mediterranean and ravage the coastal powers.

After the Thirty Years War destroys European powers, the Turks seize their chance and attack the survivors. Italy falls quickly followed by the Austrians. With Ottoman power now supreme, the survivors either quickly become Ottoman vassals or are easily overrun. Europe turns Muslim

The Islamic slave trade was going strong for hundreds of years before Europeans got involved, why would cheaper slaves make it much more powerful all of a sudden, especially at a time when the Ottoman Empire is slowly but surely falling further and further behind the European states? Also, lower prices for slaves will just mean less slave-raiding and less slaves.
 
Labour shortage in the Americas leading to more more bonded and convict labour being sent from Europe to the Americas.
 
of course it wont stop slaving, since the arab slave trade was also huge.
the area in which they operate might expand in otl western slaving areas
 
The Slave Trade would continue (the African Kingdoms engaged in it for a lot of their own reasons) but the slaves would change destinations.

Without the Europeans bidding on them, the price would fall and the Africans may have kept more themselves. The Arabs would continue to buy them up. They bought a lot of the women but could still find a use for males especially if the prices dropped.

So a more powerful Ottoman Empire is likely. With male slaves being cheaper, they are imported to North Africa. Some are used building a much more powerful Ottoman fleet that continues to control the Mediterranean and ravage the coastal powers.

After the Thirty Years War destroys European powers, the Turks seize their chance and attack the survivors. Italy falls quickly followed by the Austrians. With Ottoman power now supreme, the survivors either quickly become Ottoman vassals or are easily overrun. Europe turns Muslim

errrrrrr........no.

Ottoman empire was a mess at this time as well.
 
Labour shortage in the Americas leading to more more bonded and convict labour being sent from Europe to the Americas.

As has been discussed, the death rate from malaria of whites working on the plantations would probably have made this unfeasible.
 
With convicts being sent to the Americas, initially as slaves, later as indentured servants, Australia would be colonized at a far slower rate. Assuming it is colonized by the British. TTL it could easily be French or Dutch.
 
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