I don't see how this prevents the holocaust. Germany still loses. t The Treaty of Versailles and the depression still inspire Hitler's rise to power.
But wasn't one of the argument Hitler had that the Final Solution could be pulled off was "no one remembers the Armenians", the premise being they could get away with it?
But wasn't one of the argument Hitler had that the Final Solution could be pulled off was "no one remembers the Armenians", the premise being they could get away with it?
1) same as OTL since the very term "Armenian genocide" is a tragic misnomer. If you mean, "What if the Turks hadn't ethnically cleansed the Armenians," these butterflies are likely to be very localized and not powerful enough to seriously affect intra-German political issues.Hi! What would the ramifications be if the Armenian genocide doesn't happen? Would the Holocaust still take place, among other things?
I think that's more just a famous quote that people have picked up on. Hitler used European practices in Africa and American actions on the Frontier as his template, not so much the Turks and their gigantic cluster-fuck.Interesting idea. Hitler actually saw the Turks as getting away with the genocide as proof that he could pull this with the Jews and also get away with it.
Interesting idea. Hitler actually saw the Turks as getting away with the genocide as proof that he could pull this with the Jews and also get away with it.
I think that's more just a famous quote that people have picked up on. Hitler used European practices in Africa and American actions on the Frontier as his template, not so much the Turks and their gigantic cluster-fuck.
Quite so.Case in point Heinrich Goering and the Herero Genocide.......
The events in eastern Anatolia are difficult to avoid once WWI is underway.
1) The Russian invade the Ottoman Empire from the east.
2) The Russian advance sets off a major Armenian uprising complete with large scale killings of Turks and Kurds in the area.
3) The Turkish counter-offensive forces the Russians to retreat and, able to guess the likely response to the missing Turkish and Kurdish population, the Armenian population flees with the Russians.
4) You now have several hundred thousand Armenian refugees in an area which saw @200,000 Russian soldiers die due to lack of basic supplies over the next few months. The prospects for these Armenians surviving is not good...