No 1965 Immigration Act
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Would not affect Latino immigration at all, just immigration from Europe, Africa, Asia and the non-Spanish Caribbean islands.
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Most likely, it would have passed again in a few years. The people who pushed it wanted it, bad, and their influence would have only gone up.
Supposing, though, that America was preserved at it's 1965 demographics, we would have had a more equal society, better for the working class certainly, and probably better for the upper classes too, as they're the ones who have to pay for the English language instruction, food stamps, and juvenile detention centers. There'd be more money for the government to spend, which might have been spent on productive ventures, though maybe it'd simply be wasted. The Democratic Party leaders would focus more on economic appeals and try harder to hide their contempt for the White working class, though on actual policy there wouldn't be much of a difference, as this is affected by the desires of it's White/Jewish elite rather than its voting base. Terrorism would be treated as a nuisance rather than WWIII, it's easy to keep perspective when it's other people being blown up.
Supposing, though, that America was preserved at it's 1965 demographics, we would have had a more equal society, better for the working class certainly, and probably better for the upper classes too, as they're the ones who have to pay for the English language instruction, food stamps, and juvenile detention centers. There'd be more money for the government to spend, which might have been spent on productive ventures, though maybe it'd simply be wasted. The Democratic Party leaders would focus more on economic appeals and try harder to hide their contempt for the White working class, though on actual policy there wouldn't be much of a difference, as this is affected by the desires of it's White/Jewish elite rather than its voting base. Terrorism would be treated as a nuisance rather than WWIII, it's easy to keep perspective when it's other people being blown up.
A reformed version of the Bracero, guest worker, program would be required to provide sufficient agricultural labor.
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Question--didn't the 1965 Immigration Act actually impose quotas on immigration from the Western Hemisphere for the first time in U.S. history?
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Completely agreed; after all, U.S. society was certainly becoming more progressive and racially tolerant in the 1960s and beyond.
Yes- It is merely happenstance of labor markets that Mexicans and other Latin Americans simply were not linked into 19th century and early 20th century American industrial sectors to the extent that Europeans were.
The National Origins Quota Act of c. 1924-1964 did nothing to regulate immigration from Mexico or the rest of the western hemisphere. So unless there were definite policies to bar Mexican and Latin American migration, the Hispanic component of the US population would have risen proportionately at least as much as OTL.
A MORE EQUAL society? When roughly 10% of the population are in conditions that openly treat them as second class citizens?
Less spending on juvenile detention centers? Presumably because all those excess brown people are not committing crimes.
Less welfare because, well, you know how they are.
This post is utterly repulsive.
It is pretty clear what your belief system is. It isn't in sync with this Board, and I see no reason to force other members to share bandwidth with an overt racist.
We divorce you.
Stumbled upon this topic due to the moderation action listed in HoI.
For anyone who is not a US citizen or doesn't know various US acts by heart i present the wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
So if the 195 act fails then, at least for a while, there is less immigration from Asia, Africa and Southern Europe. From my perspective the immigration acts preceding the 1965 one were racist in nature by favoring Caucasian immigrants.
If the 1965 immigration act failed, would this embolden the native racist movements (E.g. the KKK)?
For anyone who is not a US citizen or doesn't know various US acts by heart i present the wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
So if the 195 act fails then, at least for a while, there is less immigration from Asia, Africa and Southern Europe. From my perspective the immigration acts preceding the 1965 one were racist in nature by favoring Caucasian immigrants.
If the 1965 immigration act failed, would this embolden the native racist movements (E.g. the KKK)?
It would mean a lot more legal Irish emigration to the US. Not sure about the rest of Europe.
What affect that would have on American politics is hard to say.
Irish immigrants: Immigration After 1965
http://immigrationtounitedstates.org/636-irish-immigrants-immigration-after-1965.html
Seeking help from Senator Robert Kennedy on changing 1965 Immigration Act
As a young Irish American lawyer, Judge John Collins of New York helped lead the fight to overturn the 1965 immigration act which essentially ended legal Irish immigration to America. In this chapter of his memoir he describes efforts to get Senator Robert Kennedy and other leading figures on their side.
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/se...ging-1965-immigration-act-161323655-237514471
What affect that would have on American politics is hard to say.
Irish immigrants: Immigration After 1965
http://immigrationtounitedstates.org/636-irish-immigrants-immigration-after-1965.html
Seeking help from Senator Robert Kennedy on changing 1965 Immigration Act
As a young Irish American lawyer, Judge John Collins of New York helped lead the fight to overturn the 1965 immigration act which essentially ended legal Irish immigration to America. In this chapter of his memoir he describes efforts to get Senator Robert Kennedy and other leading figures on their side.
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/se...ging-1965-immigration-act-161323655-237514471
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This was my first reaction too. Hmmmmm, there might be significantly more Irish-American voters in the '80s (if not earlier) with implications for the Reagan era and support for the IRA.
Which is ironic, because I think Ted Kennedy and clan were the biggest backers of the change in laws, seeing restrictionism as an insult to their ancestors and themselves.
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