Nixon caught in 1968?

What if it was revealed Richard Nixon pressured president Thieu to back out of the Paris peace talks, right before the election. Would Nixon loose in a landslide, be kicked off the ticket or even, prosecuted for treason?
 

DTanza

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Well Humphrey would win, not in a landslide but still. I don't know what kind of action might be taken against Nixon though.

Reagan's the likely Republican nominee in '72 and I'm betting that Humphrey would wipe the floor with him.
 
It would shake the American public and lead them to question their faith and beliefs of the American ideal. Not as much as Watergate, but still a very great deal, and having not gone through Watergate, they'd think it was very bad. It would also make the year of 1968 even more hellish.

It would hand the election over the Humphrey on a silver platter.

Reagan winning the nomination in 1972 means that the Conservative faction of the Republican party will be given the control of the party, alienating the Rockefeller Republicans. That could potentially make for a bad 1972 which is somewhat of a rerun of 1964, with non-Conservatives alienated. It could also mean Reagan could be discredited by being decimated, if he is decimated. That could mean the Conservative victory over the GOP could be delayed pr or it could come earlier since, rather than being ok with a compromise in Nixon, the GOP would have to decide if it wanted to be Left-to-Moderate or Right.
 
My guess is the election turns out something like this:

Humphrey/Muskie (D) 303 Electoral Votes, 45.1% of the Popular Vote

Nixon/Agnew (R) 152 Electoral Votes, 41.0% of the Popular Vote

Wallace/LeMay (AI) 56 Electoral Votes, 13.5% of the Popular Vote

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DTanza

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Muskie's not going to have a fun time if he decides to run come '76 though. Democrats have been in the White House forever at this point, incumbency fatigue is going to be pretty high.
 
My guess is the election turns out something like this:

Humphrey/Muskie (D) 303 Electoral Votes, 45.1% of the Popular Vote

Nixon/Agnew (R) 152 Electoral Votes, 41.0% of the Popular Vote

Wallace/LeMay (AI) 56 Electoral Votes, 13.5% of the Popular Vote

I see both Humphrey and Wallace doing better than this. HHH beats Reagan by a landslide. He resigns for health reason in 1976. President Muskie loses because of the bad economy and a time for a change after 16 years of Democratic rule.
 
I see both Humphrey and Wallace doing better than this. HHH beats Reagan by a landslide. He resigns for health reason in 1976. President Muskie loses because of the bad economy and a time for a change after 16 years of Democratic rule.

The economy depends on how they handle it. It isn't destined to be what it was.
 
I see both Humphrey and Wallace doing better than this. HHH beats Reagan by a landslide. He resigns for health reason in 1976. President Muskie loses because of the bad economy and a time for a change after 16 years of Democratic rule.

Yes, I have this, which is close. I don't know why Humphrey doesn't get Oregon, and Nevada the same way he gets Alaska (Wallace hurting Nixon more):

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That's with Chandler instead of LeMay though, which gives Wallace Kentucky.

The economy depends on how they handle it. It isn't destined to be what it was.

No, but Muskie was a terrible candidate, I wouldn't bet on him winning any election.

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I think you guys are underestimating how bad this would be for Nixon, he was caught, more or less, performing treason by fucking up the peace talks for his own political gain. I think the situation might go 1912ish and have the Republican go 3rd place, while the 3rd party splinter goes 2nd, and the Democratic Party glides into office.
 
Humphrey had all the momentum on his side going into election day in OTL, but wasn't quite able to make up what had been an overwhelming deficit. In this TL, Humphrey definitely wins by a comfortable margin.

Interesting to speculate about a Humphrey presidency; I'm thinking he ends the Vietnam War pretty early in his first term and glides to reelection in '72 comfortably.
 
I think you guys are underestimating how bad this would be for Nixon, he was caught, more or less, performing treason by fucking up the peace talks for his own political gain. I think the situation might go 1912ish and have the Republican go 3rd place, while the 3rd party splinter goes 2nd, and the Democratic Party glides into office.

Well, Nixon will deny it all to hell and try to make it look like the liberal media was destroying him. I'm assuming there isn't a 'smoking gun' tape here. Still, in my map there's a swing greater than 8%, which is pretty big. And he's 3rd electorally.
 
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