Nine Possible 20th Centuries

I read a book recently that asserted that the 20th Century was about the struggle between aggressive nationalism, authoritarian socialism and liberal democracy and the story of the 20th Century was that liberal democracy won. Well, that got me thinking how else the story of the 20th Century might have ended, and I came up with nine possible endings (assuming a post-1900 POD). I've ranked them in order of worst first, best last.


EXTINCTION

Nuclear or biological warfare kills everyone.


ARMAGEDDON

Nuclear or biological warfare destroys civilisation. The world ends the 20th Century at a pre-industrial level of culture.


ARMAGEDDON LITE

Nuclear or biological warfare smashes the economies of most industrialised nations, and degrades the environment of the planet, but industrial civilisation survives.


IRON HEEL

The whole world comes under the rule of authoritarian dictatorships of one form or another. There might be a single world-straddling dictatorship, two or three rivals, or many independent states. In any case, liberal ideas of democracy and freedom have gone extinct.


EMPIRES

It is possible to imagine a 20th Century in which ideas of national, cultural and racial superiority still dominate the developed world in the year 2000. The forms this could take might range from empires in which the "natives" have a good deal of autonomy but are still taught to consider themselves as loyal subjects of the Crown, to fascist empires less extremist than that of Nazi Germany.


CYBERPUNK

The free market, either in its liberal or authoritarian forms, is more successful (for example, China might industrialise at the same time as Japan). There is a great deal more prosperity mid-century than in OTL. This has a number of results. First, environmental degradation happens earlier, happens quicker and has larger effects. All the problems that environmental pessimists envisage us having to face in the next 50 years have already happened by the year 2000. The result is a declining world economy and increasing conflict between nations and peoples. Secondly, technology has become more advanced. Thirdly, the world triumph of the free market has led to greater extremes of wealth and poverty, more powerful corporations, more selfishness, and the decline of traditional cultures in the face of globalisation.


COLD WAR

In this world the liberal market democracy model of society is still in competition with an alternative model or models. The alternative might be North Korea on a larger scale, economically bankrupt but immune to invasion due to the possession of WMDs and immune to internal change due to a ruthlessly repressive government. Or it might be economically outperforming the democracies (perhaps it's sitting on most of the world's oil, or has made some major breakthrough in science or engineering, or has an extremely capable leadership).


LIBERAL HEGEMONY

Our world, basically. There may be plenty of dictatorships and authoritarian states around but the major powers are either liberal market democracies or at least heading in that direction.


PEACE AND PROSPERITY

Every state that matters is a liberal market democracy. Although there are richer countries and poorer countries, no nation is so poor as to have to worry about famine. The resultant greater prosperity has caused environmental damage but solutions are in place to minimise it and to deal with the consequences.

This seems pretty implausible. You would have to dispose of imperialism, fascism and communism, end world poverty and somehow create an economy that enables economic growth without harming the environment. It would require leaders who are far sighted, wise and courageous.

Some things that might help - either the Bolsheviks fail to take power in the 1917 revolution or at least someone other than Stalin comes to power in the 1920s. The Great War lasts longer and Germany loses more decisively: result, the German people accept their defeat with good grace rather than blaming it on a Jewish conspiracy, the Allies take pity on a starving and ruined Germany and the Treaty of Versailles is more sensible. The League of Nations works. The temptation of protectionism is resisted during the Depression (if Japan could trade with the USA it would be less likely to attack it). Decolonisation is a more gradual process (the lack of a Second World War would help here) and corrupt third-world dictatorships are not supported by developed nations (the lack of a Cold War would help here). More co-operation between the Great Powers (this would be much easier with no fascist or communist states).

Some cultural changes would also be helpful - such as a more generous-spirited evangelical Christianity and scientists having a higher status in our society (so they are not ignored when they warn of, for example, the dangers of global warming). And I think a willingness to at least acknowledge the problem of population growth would be a great help.


So, I think we are living in the second-best subset of possible 21st Centuries with a POD post-1900! I think that's pretty lucky.

Have I missed any possibilities?
 
Akiyama said:
So, I think we are living in the second-best subset of possible 21st Centuries with a POD post-1900! I think that's pretty lucky.

Have I missed any possibilities?

Personally, I think for the world as a whole an era of Reformed Empire with self-ruling dominions as the ultimate step would have been more desirable. In essence one may not be able to differentiate these dominions from independent states, apart from Head of State issues, but for there to have been this defined path continued throughout the century it makes for many fewer disfunctional independent states, especially in Africa. One could imagine dominion status by now for Nigeria, Kenya, Rhodesia, all of which have dealt more slowly and with less conflict with the issues left over from the time of aggressive empire.

Grey Wolf
 
You missed...

INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISM - in which Communism is spread through a series of revolutionary uprisings.

ECONOMIC WAR - in which various trading blocs are pitted against each other in a war of R&D, protectionism, taxes and subsidies.

LIBERAL SUPRANATIONALISM - in which either the League of Nations or the United Nations is the one with the most power.

THE NEW CALIPHATE - if political Islam strikes hard, and strikes earlier.
 
I once read a review of a book that dealt with ecologists getting in dictatorical power: Drastic population control, extreme environment conservatism (don't dare touch a tree or set foot on a natural habitat) and conservationism (half the world is protected from any change, even if many people starve because of that). Business and other potentially harming individual activity is very limited and suspect to very rigid controls, masses of people are jailed for making too many babies or other "unecological" activities, the opposition is kept down by force and spying for their "bad" agendas, euthanasia gets popular again, and so on.
 
jolo said:
I once read a review of a book that dealt with ecologists getting in dictatorical power: Drastic population control, extreme environment conservatism (don't dare touch a tree or set foot on a natural habitat) and conservationism (half the world is protected from any change, even if many people starve because of that). Business and other potentially harming individual activity is very limited and suspect to very rigid controls, masses of people are jailed for making too many babies or other "unecological" activities, the opposition is kept down by force and spying for their "bad" agendas, euthanasia gets popular again, and so on.

Wow, that author didn't have a political agenda, huh?
 

Leo Caesius

Banned
eschaton said:
Wow, that author didn't have a political agenda, huh?
I know, right? It sounds like A Handmaid's Tale for the right wing.

If that post was not already occupied by The Wanting Seed.
 
I think that the Empire one was the most desirable. Much of the world consists of British dominions, who are under the crown and the British Commonwealth is actually useful for something. Britain has a slight degree of control over the dominions, but they are virtually the same as any other independant nation. You would have a defence pact, free trade etc within the Commonwealth, and places like Africa and Asia are much more stable due to the British Commonwealth of Nations.
 
*I read a book recently that asserted that the 20th Century was about the struggle between aggressive nationalism, authoritarian socialism and liberal democracy and the story of the 20th Century was that liberal democracy won*

I'd say authoritarian socialism is the only true loser of this century. It seems nowadays that aggressive nationalism enjoys a perfect shape, especially in the self-proclaimed homeland of liberal democracy...
 
jolo said:
I once read a review of a book that dealt with ecologists getting in dictatorical power: Drastic population control, extreme environment conservatism (don't dare touch a tree or set foot on a natural habitat) and conservationism (half the world is protected from any change, even if many people starve because of that). Business and other potentially harming individual activity is very limited and suspect to very rigid controls, masses of people are jailed for making too many babies or other "unecological" activities, the opposition is kept down by force and spying for their "bad" agendas, euthanasia gets popular again, and so on.

Is this author on the payroll of Exxon? That's not environmentalism, that's fanaticism and dictatorship.
 

Glen

Moderator
Akiyama said:
I read a book recently that asserted that the 20th Century was about the struggle between aggressive nationalism, authoritarian socialism and liberal democracy and the story of the 20th Century was that liberal democracy won. Well, that got me thinking how else the story of the 20th Century might have ended, and I came up with nine possible endings (assuming a post-1900 POD). I've ranked them in order of worst first, best last.

Cool idea...

EXTINCTION

Nuclear or biological warfare kills everyone.

Not likely, not with billions of people alive.

ARMAGEDDON

Nuclear or biological warfare destroys civilisation. The world ends the 20th Century at a pre-industrial level of culture.

More likely, but the dissemination of knowledge in the twentieth century was prolific, and thus unlikely to reduce to a pre-industrial level for anything more than a few years, a generation at most.

ARMAGEDDON LITE

Nuclear or biological warfare smashes the economies of most industrialised nations, and degrades the environment of the planet, but industrial civilisation survives.

Well, rebuilds more than survives since the industrial sites are likely hit the hardest in a nuclear scenario. Biowar, sure, since the machinery is all there, just need to scrounge up enough people to work some.

IRON HEEL

The whole world comes under the rule of authoritarian dictatorships of one form or another. There might be a single world-straddling dictatorship,

Unlikely that a single dictator could control the entire world during the twentieth century. Maybe their country dominates, but not actually rules.

two or three rivals, or many independent states. In any case, liberal ideas of democracy and freedom have gone extinct.

I think that the ideas of democracy are too entrenched in the USA for this to happen for any length of time here (though there could be a crisis period where it occurs for a short time, leading to another civil war). Unless of course you have the USA brought low first by a nuclear exchange and then conquered by a third party (because we're likely to take the bastids who launched down with us).


EMPIRES

It is possible to imagine a 20th Century in which ideas of national, cultural and racial superiority still dominate the developed world in the year 2000. The forms this could take might range from empires in which the "natives" have a good deal of autonomy but are still taught to consider themselves as loyal subjects of the Crown, to fascist empires less extremist than that of Nazi Germany.

Very possible, if World Wars are avoided. If you can keep them out of war long enough to have nukes develop, then go multilateral cold war, this would work.

CYBERPUNK

The free market, either in its liberal or authoritarian forms, is more successful (for example, China might industrialise at the same time as Japan). There is a great deal more prosperity mid-century than in OTL. This has a number of results. First, environmental degradation happens earlier, happens quicker and has larger effects. All the problems that environmental pessimists envisage us having to face in the next 50 years have already happened by the year 2000. The result is a declining world economy and increasing conflict between nations and peoples. Secondly, technology has become more advanced. Thirdly, the world triumph of the free market has led to greater extremes of wealth and poverty, more powerful corporations, more selfishness, and the decline of traditional cultures in the face of globalisation.

The problem is that if you get that degree of global environmental damage you are likely to cause a backlash against unrestrained businesses that pollute, leading to more and earlier regulations. Maybe Cyberpunk lite, though.

COLD WAR

In this world the liberal market democracy model of society is still in competition with an alternative model or models. The alternative might be North Korea on a larger scale, economically bankrupt but immune to invasion due to the possession of WMDs and immune to internal change due to a ruthlessly repressive government. Or it might be economically outperforming the democracies (perhaps it's sitting on most of the world's oil, or has made some major breakthrough in science or engineering, or has an extremely capable leadership).

The Cold War could have extended further if the Soviet block had some more success mid-century and thus more economies to suck dry before collapsing, or if they did more business with the West while otherwise playing the world dominance game, which would extend their life. But in any event, they are headed for a fall. They could limp into the 21st century, but they're going down sooner or later.

LIBERAL HEGEMONY

Our world, basically. There may be plenty of dictatorships and authoritarian states around but the major powers are either liberal market democracies or at least heading in that direction.

Our world, nuff said...

PEACE AND PROSPERITY

Every state that matters is a liberal market democracy. Although there are richer countries and poorer countries, no nation is so poor as to have to worry about famine. The resultant greater prosperity has caused environmental damage but solutions are in place to minimise it and to deal with the consequences.

This seems pretty implausible. You would have to dispose of imperialism, fascism and communism, end world poverty and somehow create an economy that enables economic growth without harming the environment. It would require leaders who are far sighted, wise and courageous.

Some things that might help - either the Bolsheviks fail to take power in the 1917 revolution or at least someone other than Stalin comes to power in the 1920s. The Great War lasts longer and Germany loses more decisively: result, the German people accept their defeat with good grace rather than blaming it on a Jewish conspiracy, the Allies take pity on a starving and ruined Germany and the Treaty of Versailles is more sensible. The League of Nations works. The temptation of protectionism is resisted during the Depression (if Japan could trade with the USA it would be less likely to attack it). Decolonisation is a more gradual process (the lack of a Second World War would help here) and corrupt third-world dictatorships are not supported by developed nations (the lack of a Cold War would help here). More co-operation between the Great Powers (this would be much easier with no fascist or communist states).

Some cultural changes would also be helpful - such as a more generous-spirited evangelical Christianity and scientists having a higher status in our society (so they are not ignored when they warn of, for example, the dangers of global warming). And I think a willingness to at least acknowledge the problem of population growth would be a great help.

Well, there are several PODs that could lead to this world, surprisingly. As you point out, no or a shortened Cold War would help, as would a more peaceful transition from colonies to independent states.

Believe it or not, I'm also going to state that more free trade earlier on (and also believe it or not, more unions worldwide) might help. More jobs go earlier overseas to impoverished nations because of cheaper labor costs, which eventually improves conditions to the point that these populations demand better working conditions, and eventually we get a closer together range of economies world-wide.

So, I think we are living in the second-best subset of possible 21st Centuries with a POD post-1900! I think that's pretty lucky.

Have I missed any possibilities?

CULTURE CLASH

The West has become one of the dominant cultures (granted, a bit heterogenous even within itself) on the globe, but there are others. The World could polarize on any number of cultural axes, religious, racial, conservative/liberal, geographic, etc. Maybe not a cold war, but not sunshine and happiness either. If we are not careful, this may be where we are heading in the 21st Century. But it could have happened in the 20th.
 
Some Missed Posibilities....

Akiyama- Some ATLs that you have missed are the "Transhuman"-based ATLS, which although they could technically fall into the "Cyberpunk" ATLS, are a little bit more technologically developed. For more information check out:

http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/index.html

POST-HUMANITY
Imagine an ATL wherein humanity goes extinct yet its artificial; progeny continue onwards. In many respects one of the best examples of this type of ATL would either be The Matrix trilogy or The Terminator films, especially Terminator II: Judgement Day in the first 15 minutes:

http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Posthumanity/index.html

SINGULARITY
Imagine an ATL, wherein technology has become so advanced that development and growth of technology is not only self-sustaining, but also goes beyond any ability to control. Some good examples of this are Vernon Vinge's book Marooned In Realtime and David Brin's The Kiln People or even Joel Hadelman's Forever Peace :

http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Singularity/index.html
 
Akiyama said:
I read a book recently that asserted that the 20th Century was about the struggle between aggressive nationalism, authoritarian socialism and liberal democracy and the story of the 20th Century was that liberal democracy won. Well, that got me thinking how else the story of the 20th Century might have ended, and I came up with nine possible endings (assuming a post-1900 POD). I've ranked them in order of worst first, best last.
What does he mean, "won"? This isn't exactly a system where anyone can really "win". It may take a while, but something new will pop up. Who knows? Maybe people in the future will consider this era an anomaly that was quickly snuffed out.

Out of curiousity, what was the book? Sounds a bit like Fukuyama.
 
Diaspora

Another possibility is the beginnings of the Diaspora of humanity. With real world physics, we aren't going to be racing across the light years, but colonies, perhaps self-sustaining, on mars and the asteroids, orbital habitats, and beginning teraforming projects, could all be ongoing.
 

Glen

Moderator
Mr_ Bondoc said:
Akiyama- Some ATLs that you have missed are the "Transhuman"-based ATLS, which although they could technically fall into the "Cyberpunk" ATLS, are a little bit more technologically developed. For more information check out:

http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/index.html

POST-HUMANITY
Imagine an ATL wherein humanity goes extinct yet its artificial; progeny continue onwards. In many respects one of the best examples of this type of ATL would either be The Matrix trilogy or The Terminator films, especially Terminator II: Judgement Day in the first 15 minutes:

http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Posthumanity/index.html

SINGULARITY
Imagine an ATL, wherein technology has become so advanced that development and growth of technology is not only self-sustaining, but also goes beyond any ability to control. Some good examples of this are Vernon Vinge's book Marooned In Realtime and David Brin's The Kiln People or even Joel Hadelman's Forever Peace :

http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Singularity/index.html

Transhuman worlds won't happen within the course of the 20th century with a POD no earlier than 1900. The rate of tech progression won't cut it...
 
Regarding FTL travel...there is the Alcubierre drive, and possibly worholes. An Alcubierre drive would probably be powerable by a matter-antimatter reaction...hell, after about 50-60 years of interplanetary travel, it'd be cheap and feasible!
 
The book jolo describes also sounds like a novel by Sarah Zettel, Kingdom of Cages set in a far future on a planet dominated by environmentalists.

How about the GLOBAL VILLAGE, for lack of a better name.
This is more likely a utopian future history, but the nation-state is extinct, maybe the largest political unit is the city-state, the Internet works perfectly with no worries about spam or viruses.

MICROSTATES is like the GLOBAL VILLAGE but without the Internet. Large nations have all split up, but without any massive worldwide catastrophe. (Otherwise it would be the ARMAGEDDON LITE scenario.)

Perhaps after WW I or WW II Russia, Europe and China were Balkanized, the map of Africa was re-drawn. But we'd have to posit Civil Wars in the US and South America.

And of course...

ALIEN INVASION in which the world is transformed by visitors from outer space, other dimensions, parallel universes or alternate histories.
 

Straha

Banned
OPRESSIVE UNITY the world is enslaved/united by one single ideology and unified in one nation with no other nations. Think a more extreme version of the iron heel scenario.

MAD MAX The world due to more development/trade earlier than OTL starts running out of resources before subsitutes are developed and is devolving

JIHAD a religion emerges and changes the face of the earth totally.

STAGNATION due to international events going differently we see a late 19th century type period of technical conservatism we see 60's type tech by today

GERNSBACK Due to different political/social conditions different tech than OTL is adopted

UBERPUNK Thanks to international events going differently technology is more advanced than OTL

BIPOLARITY Two closely knit blocs of nations or 2 empire are competing directly for the world.

IDEOLOGUE Two or more ideologies or even religions vy fore power and influence. (probably OTL)

COLLAPSE A global economic collapse happens(think great depression but FAR worse and permanent). A more poor earth than OTL results from the POD.

WINDFALL a LONG economic boom happens and we see a much richer world than OTL.

DECLINE AND FALL An Empire or ideology manages to unite or dominate the world but it starts collapsing with BAD consequences. Could be a spinoff from the iron heel path.

TOXIC CHOKE Worse environmental damage starts impacting civilziation. Worse than the cyberpunk world.
 
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