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because france doesnt have as many different colonial successors. colonial successors indicate that the successor is still mostly french as opposed to one that used to be ruled by france; ivory coast may SPEAK french, buts its not CULTURALLY french
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They just need colors for their own country, maybe one for their overseas empire, one for protectorates (Morocco, Tunisia, Mauritania), one for vassal states(Same as previous? This would go for in Indochina and for native American allies), one for mandates, and perhaps a color to show areas they are merely temporarily occupying or are jointly administered. Oh, and there is the French Cold War camp which included Cote' dIvori, Chad, Central African Empire, Gabon, Adagascar, Saar the like.
 
oshron

oshron

i was planning to include colors for several tribes, with notes saying they could be used for other tribes aside from the ones specifically mentioned. the ones i had in mind were the apache, iroquois, sioux, inca, and aztecs/mayans, as well as another color specifically mentioned for "other tribes"

i was also thinking of making some for specific african colors as well. in addition to ones tthat we've seen more often like Carthage/Tunisia and Egypt, i was also thinking of including zulu, ghana/mali/songhai (since those countries were pretty similar historically and were all in the same general region), Abyssinia/Ethiopia, "East Africa" (for such tribes as the Maasai) and, of course, one for tribes that arent mentioned otherwise
 
oshron

oshron

im thinking of maybe trying this out again. i was thinking of using a much simpler table for the color scheme in which i make a table on microsoft word then print-screen it into photoshop, adding colors there.

that said, what general "categories" (ie, "British Isles" "China" "Russia & Other Slavs") would you all suggest for this, and what entries for each one?
 
Lord Hastur of Carcosa

Lord Hastur of Carcosa

oshron said:
im thinking of maybe trying this out again. i was thinking of using a much simpler table for the color scheme in which i make a table on microsoft word then print-screen it into photoshop, adding colors there.

that said, what general "categories" (ie, "British Isles" "China" "Russia & Other Slavs") would you all suggest for this, and what entries for each one?
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I tried to make a "quadrant scheme" some time ago, I guess it's buried somewhere in my hard drive. IIRC I made a "Mediterranean Quadrant" including the Arab Nations as well as historically Rome and Byzantium, a "Continental Sector" (France, Germany and historical antecedents i.e. Saxony) a "Russian-East Europe Quadrant", a "Far Eastern Quadrant", North and South America (including independent Texas, California and Quebec). I'll post it as soon as I find it.
 
Lord Hastur of Carcosa

Lord Hastur of Carcosa

Here is a sample. The scheme obviously is just a proposal and oper for any change.

Quadrant one: the Anglosphere

  • United Kingdom/Commonwealth/England/Anges (English Pale Red)
  • Dominion (English Rose)
  • Protectorate (light pink)
  • Bretwalda/Germanic England/Kingdom of York (dark red)
  • Wales/Brittonic Kingdoms/Camelot (purple?)
  • Scotland/Dalriada/Alba/Jackobites (night blue)
  • Ireland/catholic England (light green)
  • Celts/Tuatha de Danaan (dark green)
  • ASB Britain/Britannia/Oceania/Anglojapanese dinastic union (brown red)
  • Former British Colony/Australia (lime green)
    [*]New Zeland/ASB Lemura or Mu (light blue)

Bold is for countries that would actually appear on a current OTL map
 
Lord Hastur of Carcosa

Lord Hastur of Carcosa

Reference Map:

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Lord Hastur of Carcosa

Lord Hastur of Carcosa

Quadrant two: North America

  • USA (teal)
    [*]USA Terr. (dark teal)
  • CSA (Gray)
  • CSA Terr. (darker gray)
  • Independent California
  • Independent Texas
  • Canada (dark orange)
    [*]Canada Terr. (light orange)
  • Independent Quebec/post colonial french state (blue-violet)
  • Natives NO COLOR YET
  • Radical America/Deseret/Gilead/American Empire from GITS:SAC (brown gray)
  • Cascadia NO COLOR YET
  • Independent New England/kingdom of America/Atlantis (olive green)
  • Vinland (navy blue)
  • Aliens/the Race (pale green)
 
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oshron

oshron

i simply hadnt added them in. ive decided to drop that idea altogether and instead provide instructions on how to take the colors with the eyedropper tool in editing programs

btw, here's the palettes that i have so far. colors havent been assigned yet, but will be more or less the same as before:

British Isles

  • England/Great Britain/UK
  • Ireland (ATL: Catholic UK)
  • Scotland/etc (ATL: Celtic empire)
  • Brythonic Celts/Wales (ATL: Camelot, Celtic colonial successor state)
  • Romanic Britain/Gaul (ATL: French- or Latin-speaking Britain)
  • Nordic/Germanic Britain (ATL: Viking England, Nazi UK)
  • Anglo-American Union/ASB Britain
  • alternative British/Celts (ATL: independent Northern Ireland, mythical peoples)
Commonwealth

  • Australia (ATL: Dutch Australia, Aborigines)
  • Canada (ATL: North American commonwealth)
  • British India
  • New Zealand/Maori (ATL: Pacific empire, Lemuria/Mu)
  • South Africa (ATL: Boer republics, Dutch colonial successor state, Draka Empire)
  • other commonwealth nation
North America

  • United States
  • Civil War-era United States (ATL: other US-like or continental American country)
  • Confederate States (ATL: white supremacist/fascist America)
  • expansionist/radical America
  • monarchist America
  • libertarian/theocratic America
  • Texas (ATL: CSA secessionist state)
  • other "American" country
Low Countries

  • Holland/Benelux
  • Belgium/Flanders
  • other Dutch
  • former Dutch colony
France

  • France/Franks {shouldn't be used for "Celtic" France}
  • French colonial successor state (ATL: independent Quebec)
  • former French colony
  • alternative French/Franks (ATL: distinct Napoleonic state, Napoleonic exiles)*
Indian Subcontinent

  • Hindu-dominated India
  • Muslim-dominated India
  • other religion-dominated India
  • other Indian Subcontinent country
Italian Peninsula

  • Italy/(Western) Romans (ATL: other unified Italy)
  • Piedmont/Sardinia
  • Venice
  • Genoa
  • Sicily/Naples (ATL: Sicilian Mafia outside Italy)
  • Papal/Church lands (including those in the HRE) (ATL: other Christian theocracy)
  • Italian/Roman colonial successor state
  • non-Sicilian southern Italy
  • other Italians/Romans
Germany

  • unified Germany {use as outline for disunited Holy Roman Empire}
  • Prussia/Teutonic Order
  • Saxony/Germanic barbarians
  • Austria/Austria-Hungary
  • Bavaria/other southern German state
  • Brandenburg/East Germany
  • Hesse/West Germany
  • Bohemia/Czechoslovakia/Czech Republic
  • German colonial successor state (ATL: German exiles)
Balkan Peninsula/Ancient Greece

  • Greece/Byzantine Empire
  • Alexandrian Macedonia {outline with different colors for succeeding states}
  • Serbia/Yugoslavia (ATL: other Balkan union)
  • Bulgaria/Thrace (ATL: Balkan/ancient Greek barbarians)
  • Wallachia/Transylvania (ATL: vampire-dominated country)
  • other Balkans
  • Romania/Romani people (Gypsies) (ATL: other Gypsy-like peoples)
Iberia/Latin America

  • Castile/Spain (ATL: other unified Spanish-speaking country)
  • Aragon
  • Portugal
  • Argentina/Rio de la Plata
  • Chile
  • other Spanish colonial successor state
  • former Portuguese colony
  • Muslim Iberia
  • Cuba (ATL: Caribbean union, other Caribbean state)
American Indians

  • Arctic natives (ATL: independent Greenland or Nunavut)
  • Subarctic natives (ATL: Skraelings)
  • Iroquois (ATL: other Northeast Woodland tribe)
  • Shoshone/Comanche
  • Plains Indians
  • alternative Plains Indians
  • other North American natives
  • Mexican empire/republic
  • nativist Mexico*
  • other Mesoamericans
  • South American natives
Scandinavia

  • Denmark
  • Norway/Vikings (ATL: Viking empire)
  • Sweden
  • Finland
  • Iceland (ATL: Thule, other phantom islands)
  • Norse colonial successor state
Alien Space Bats*

  • radical alien invaders
  • alien refugees
  • parasitic aliens

*in the case of a Napoleonic state, this would be used in the event that there's two French states: one which is monarchist or like modern France, and another which is an empire like Napoleon's
*i decided to designate two separate colors for countries like OTL mexico and "aztec" countries
*this last palette is for the off-the-wall, totally-out-there, fantasy and science-fiction colors; im also still working on this one

any suggestions? specifically, im looking for some more input as to entries under Alien Space Bats
 
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