New OTL Maps project: Political parties

[iori]

One other thing, what about Greenland?
It elects it's own parliament and is autonomous to the point where it's almost its own country. Another thing here, while Denmark's government is majority center-right, Greenland's government is left-wing, with a (non-third way) Social Democratic party and Socialist Party controlling 56% of the legislature.

 

[Theodoric]

Mappo

Why is the Netherlands center-right? The government consists of centrists and centre-leftists.

 

[Feo]

I prefer this system. Most ideologies have a colour associated with them anyway. Communism - Dark red. Socialism - light red. Fascism - black. Green - Green. Centrist - purple. Militarist - khaki coloured?

For coalition gvmts have stripes. For constitutional monarchies have borders.

Sorted.

I've found that map on wikipedia, it really has ugly colors imho, no coalitions and any distinction between democracies and dictatorship

I think that it can be a good starting point for a political-UCS

 

[Atom]

The Historical Atlas of the Twentieth Century had something similar, but for all of the twentieth century. Here you go:http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/20c-govt.htm

 

[VT45]

United States? Social democratic? Really?

 

[False Dmitri]

United States? Social democratic? Really?

Agreed. The DPUSA is not social-democratic by any definition. They don't self-identify as such, and their policies wouldn't be categorized as such when put on a global scale.

I question some other categories there. What is meant by "liberal"? Even worse, what the heck does "conservative, liberal-conservative" mean? And "supporting the President" ... can I say ? If Thande's scale is inadequate (and I don't think it is, for what the map's goals are), than this new key is completely unhelpful. If anything, it reflects the opinions of one Internet guy with MSPaint who thinks he has his own new theory of politics.

 

[iori]

I think perhaps he meant presidential dictatorship, as the countries in that colour basically fit that category.

Liberal-conservatism is an ideology that espouses economic liberalism (Free trade, unregulated free marketism) and social conservatism.
A classic conservative is both socially conservative and more inclined to support economic policies that will help their country, regardless of if they're economically liberal or not.


Anyways, I like the idea of having three shades of red to represent the left, three shaded of blue to represent the right, a light purplish colour for centrism and then have yellow for modern liberalsim and dark yellow/gold for classical liberalism/libertarianism and then just use the toher colours associated with other politicial movements, like green for the Greens.

 

[Chris S]

Just so, and thankee.

BTW, although not related to this thread, maybe we should also revive the Diffin/Straha system of classification for political systems (absolute monarchy/one-party state/multiparty democratic republic/multiparty constitutional monarchy etc.) and improve that.

Firstly, I think this is a pretty good idea Thande. However it seems people are confusing it with a related idea - that of showing political systems. Perhaps this efforts should be split in two with one showing the shift in political parties using your Red-Purple-Blue & Light/Dark (RPB/L-D) system and another one showing the political systems using that classification system you referred to.

One question though, what will be shown for countries where there were no parties to begin with in the government? I think Russia before the early 1900s and some middle eastern monarchies until after the 1950s wouldn't have any party being in government per se.

Okay, fair enough, yellow = centrist liberalism after all...the problem is showing a steady progression from red to blue if it goes through yellow rather than purple.

You can use rainbow colours, but in my experience it doesn't look that good as the progression isn't so obvious to the eye.

Well, if not using the RPB/L-D scheme how about using this to show a progression between red and blue with yellow inbetween:

Red - Orange - Yellow - Green - Blue. That way you can get a lot of variations, even more than simple Red - Purple - Blue. Of course, classifying which parties would fall under any orange colour might be a bitch depending on the number of parties in the country and their views.