New Deal Coalition Retained Pt II: World on Fire

First blood goes to the Soviets, but I'm sure there'll be a turnaround.

And I noted that the wikibox still calls this WWIII. So, no alternate names after all?

Maybe the Hot War?

I mean, what else can you call it besides a world war? It clearly isn't restricted to just one theater.

With that being said, I'm quite sure pop culture (or someone else in this thread or story) will come up with some names for this (not me though: I'm writing this at 5 am where I live, and am getting up early to deliver christmas cards).
 
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5:40 AM, November 13, 1988

Good morning, America. This is Tom Brokaw with NBC news. I wish this were just a nightmare, that I was to wake up in several hours and find this to be just a figment of a troubled mind. But sadly, it is not.

Just seven hours ago, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and their combined allies have declared war on the United States of America. Already the Red Army has begun to assault across Europe, while NBC can confirm Paraguay and Iraq have been invaded by Warsaw Pact forces in the wee hours of the morning. Early reports on the ground have indicated that chemical munitions are being used, ones more deadly than those employed by Congolese forces prior to the Siege of Kinshasa...

[Inaudible chatter from his ear mic]

This just in, we are cutting out to a live message from President Rumsfeld.

[screen cuts out to a blackened background, President Rumsfeld sitting in the center]

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"My fellow Americans, I come to you from an undisclosed location for my safety and the safety of the American government in these times of crisis.

"It is with a heavy heart to say that we have begun air, land, and sea operations against the USSR and their Warsaw Pact Allies. We did not seek this fight out, and despite every diplomatic effort General Secretary Kryuchkov has decided upon the course of armed conflict. He has started it, but we will finish it.

"By emergency order by the Executive Branch, I have ordered the Department of Defense to re-institute the draft. I do not wish this, but it is necessary. Victory will be ours, ours and our allies. The Soviet Government will find out the depth of American resolve and the heat of American fire..."

[feed cuts off to a frazzled Tom Brokaw; Air raid sirens heard in the background]

Forgive me, but we have just been notified that Washington DC is soon to be under direct assault by Russian long-range bombers. Pray for us.

-end-​


"Today is the beginning of World Socialism's glorious victory over the imperialists and capitalists of the West. We will win! We will save our species! The Soviet Union will bring about a new age in humanity upon our victory, and we call upon the United States and all other nations to throw off the shackles of their dominant class and join us in the Revolution."

-
General Secretary Kryuchkov-


"Do you hear that sound, patriots! That is the sound of Soviet bombers assaulting Holy American soil! Washington, New York, Boston, Miami, and Newport News have all reported raids. Not since the perfidy of the southern Mexican swine did a foreign power touch our sacred ground! Rise up! Rise up to join our brothers overseas to repel this Russian menace. Together, we shall burn Moscow to the ground. Burn Rio! Burn Buenos Aries! Burn Tehran! Burn Warsaw! Burn Leningrad! Burn them all and send their godless souls to hell! We shall win! We shall be victorious! We will be free, or die trying!"

-Excerpt of the New Day with George Lincoln Rockwell radio program, November 13, 1888-

A/n: And it's back! Expect updates to start back again next week.
Oh boy, China, the USSR, and India all together? This will be quite a struggle.

Pretty sure barring some extraordinary event, nobody's going to be invading the communist homelands
 
Oh boy, China, the USSR, and India all together? This will be quite a struggle.

Pretty sure barring some extraordinary event, nobody's going to be invading the communist homelands


IIRC most of the pink have declared neutrality but are backing WARPACT forces with diplomatic and material aid.

Anyway, this is awesome. The expanded Warsaw Pact really makes this an even closer match than it would have been IOTL. The mental images of CONUS coming under direct military attack are harrowing, particularly that of a US Capitol Building in smoking ruins after the Soviet air raid. That would probably be the image that the nation would rally around:

Rockwell’s call to arms, fascistic and violent as it may be, is pretty damn cool too. While some might argue that it goes against the Freyist beliefs of TTL’s Rockwell, it would likely be understood in-universe that this is a call made in the heat of the moment, in the anger that only an unprovoked attack against American cities by the Evil Empire can inspire in the heart of a patriotic American. ITTL Rockwell’s speech will probably go down alongside the “We Will Fight on the Beaches” and “Day of Infamy” speeches. Rumsfeld’s address not so much - nothing wrong with his speech, but the interrupting Soviet bomber raid causing news networks cut him off before he could finish kind of steals his thunder.

Am I correct in assuming that this particular installment will primarily focus on WW3, with another installment to cover the post-war world? If any “one” event in this TL deserves it’s own thread, it’s WW3; this will be The Big Event that will shape the world as it advances to a new millennium.
 
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One thing that might just help NATO: we’re less than a month from the Armenian Earthquake, assuming that butterflies don’t affect seismic activity.
 
IIRC most of the pink have declared neutrality but are backing WARPACT forces with diplomatic and material aid.

Anyway, this is awesome. The expanded Warsaw Pact really makes this an even closer match than it would have been IOTL. The mental images of CONUS coming under direct military attack are harrowing, particularly that of a US Capitol Building in smoking ruins after the Soviet air raid. That would probably be the image that the nation would rally around:

Rockwell’s call to arms, fascistic and violent as it may be, is pretty damn cool too. While some might argue that it goes against the Freyist beliefs of TTL’s Rockwell, it would likely be understood in-universe that this is a call made in the heat of the moment, in the anger that only an unprovoked attack against American cities by the Evil Empire can inspire in the heart of a patriotic American. ITTL Rockwell’s speech will probably go down alongside the “We Will Fight on the Beaches” and “Day of Infamy” speeches. Rumsfeld’s address not so much - nothing wrong with his speech, but the interrupting Soviet bomber raid causing news networks cut him off before he could finish kind of steals his thunder.

Am I correct in assuming that this particular installment will primarily focus on WW3, with another installment to cover the post-war world? If any “one” event in this TL deserves it’s own thread, it’s WW3; this will be The Big Event that will shape the world as it advances to a new millennium.
WW3 is part of the "World on fire." This part will cover everything, including all post-war developments
 
you think that Finland and Sweden would join the alies out of fear of soviet invasion. also why is turkey neutral. also wouldn't India and china invade the surrounding neutral states for global revolution?
 
you think that Finland and Sweden would join the alies out of fear of soviet invasion. also why is turkey neutral. also wouldn't India and china invade the surrounding neutral states for global revolution?

China, India, and the other countries in pink are Soviet friendly but officially neutral.
 
You've finally done it; you've made George Lincoln Rockwell look cool (for one brief, shining moment, which he will ruin)...
 
Odd, as I wouldn't have known that the previous NDC TL would lead to a WWIII in the 1980's, the late 80's to be exact; though if anything, I suspect it can be won by either side even if nukes fly at some point, provided if enough time is taken to prepare for them to minimize causalities in the event of a nuclear exchange.
 
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Guys the world isn't going to end. MAD isn't going to happen. Look at the wikiboxes in the first part and you'll see that it has dates of those who die after the war or are still alive in present day.
 
Guys the world isn't going to end. MAD isn't going to happen. Look at the wikiboxes in the first part and you'll see that it has dates of those who die after the war or are still alive in present day.
no guarantees of the world surviving: sure, the top echelons of the government might survive along with some select individuals, but the world can also go into Fallout 3/4
 
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