New Deal Coalition Retained: A Sixth Party System Wikibox Timeline

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by The Congressman, Jun 21, 2016.

  1. Exitstencil George McGovern is my god

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    Jesus christ Ted. I wonder if anybody will pick up his "Lion if the Senate" mantle.

    Kind of surprised Kean still replaces him. Wonder if they'll still have their "newspaper dialogue."

    One last question; How the hell did Tsongas get elected? His district OTL was solidly Republican for decades, and with no Watergate scandal, how would a Progressive get elected?
     
  2. The Congressman Populist Liberty Conservative

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    Ed Brooke did that in a way before Reagan made him Attorney General. William Proxmire was also big but he retired in 1982. George McGovern is likely to take up that role
    Tsongas ran in a more socially liberal district, and he had a lot of goodwill as a congressman to win in a tight three-way race
     
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  3. Exitstencil George McGovern is my god

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    Is Frank Serpico still famous for his honest cop business? Did he still get shot in the face, and how'd he get into politics?
     
  4. emk163 Well-Known Member

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    How's Jimmy Carter doing?
    And Walter Mondale.
     
  5. Wayside 'Cause I'm Just a Teenage SocDem, Baby

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    Senator Ed Meese. God help California...
     
  6. LastKingOfMaryland And you thought Kim Jong Il was crazy...

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    What are these characters up to?
    • Pete Wilson
    • Pat Schroeder
    • Bob Graham
    • Sam Nunn
    • Paul Sarbanes
    • Mike Dukakis
    • Ross Perot
    • Thad Cochran
    • Elizabeth Holtzman
    • Phil Gramm
    • Mitt Romney
     
  7. The Congressman Populist Liberty Conservative

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    Serpico's actions went just like OTL, though the commission that was formed after his wistleblowing was the doing of Mayor Buckley. Ramsay Clark convinced him to go into politics, and he won a seat in Lower Manhattan in 1974 as a Democrat. As for Jimmy Carter, he's a congressman from Georgia after defeating J.B. Stoner in 1970. He's an economic liberal and a soft social conservative. Mondale was a former Democratic statewide official in Minnesota, but defected to the Farmer-Labor Party. He was then elected as the Minnesota Secretary of State in the 1982 elections
     
  8. Exitstencil George McGovern is my god

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    Hell, Serpico would make a damn good Progressive VP pick. While we can't go with McGovern again thanks to 1980, we can try someone a little more charismatic.
     
  9. The Congressman Populist Liberty Conservative

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    Lol, slow down guys :D
    • Pete Wilson is still Mayor of San Diego. He unsuccessfully ran against Governor Yorty in 1982.
    • Pat Schroeder is a Congresswoman like OTL
    • Bob Graham was defeated for senate in 1976 by Claude Kirk. He was elected as Florida Attorney General in 1978 and is biding his time.
    • Sam Nunn is still in the Senate
    • Paul Sarbanes barely held on as a Congressman until 1976, when the Reagan wave joined with the Agnew machine to defeat him
    • Mike Dukakis is the current Mayor of Boston, waiting for his opportunity to run statewide - Dems are still hurt by Endicott Peabody's commuting of the Boston Strangler
    • Ross Perot is still a businessman in Texas. Known as the bankroll of the Texas Democratic Party but a supporter of President Reagan
    • Thad Cochran. In congress. you'll see more of him soon ;)
    • Elizabeth Holtzman. In congress, one of the leaders of the Kennedy liberal wing of the Democratic Party
    • Phil Gramm. Still in the Democratic Party. Planning to run for Senate in 1984.
    • Mitt Romney. Working at Bain Capital.
     
  10. Exitstencil George McGovern is my god

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    MORE! MORE! MORE!

    What is Neil Young up to?

    Also, I'm going to throw in Claude Pepper and Alan Greenspan for social security updates.

    I'll stop after this, you're probably going nuts.
     
  11. emk163 Well-Known Member

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    So Mondale is basically a nobody while Carter is a congressman instead of governor.
     
  12. The Congressman Populist Liberty Conservative

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    I don't mind. This is fun :)
    Pepper is a Senator again. Greenspan is undersecretary of the treasury
    Mondale is young. He still has a big future in the Farmer-Labor Party
     
  13. Exitstencil George McGovern is my god

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    What's going up with:
    • James Schlesinger
    • Warren G. Magnuson
    • Benjamin Ward
    • Tom Eagleton
    • Howell Heflin
    • James Baker
    • Mr. Jesse Jackson
     
  14. The Congressman Populist Liberty Conservative

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    • Schlesinger was the philisophical force behind Communonationalism and was a policy adviser for George Wallace
    • Warren G. Magnuson was defeated same as OTL, but in 1974 rather than 1980.
    • Benjamin Ward was appointed by Mayor William Buckley as a Deputy Commissioner based on the post-Serpico commission's requests.
    • Tom Eagleton is the senior US Senator for Missouri
    • Howell Heflin. Ran for senate but was defeated in the primary runoff by Fob James
    • James Baker is the House Majority Leader
    • Jesse Jackson stayed a reverend, and is a member of the Crusader movement
     
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  15. Exitstencil George McGovern is my god

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    I really hope you have something planned for Serpico, that man is just too badass.
     
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  16. The Congressman Populist Liberty Conservative

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    98th Congress

    House Leadership-

    Speaker: Roy Cohn (R-NY14)
    Majority Leader: James Baker (R-TX7)
    Majority Whip: Bill Clay Sr. (R-MO1)

    Minority Leader: Daniel Inouye (D-HI2)
    Minority Whip: Frank Fitzsimmons (D-PA18)

    Opposition Leader: John Anderson (P-IL16)
    Opposition Whip: Leo Ryan (P-CA11)


    Senate Leadership-

    President Pro Tempore: Paul Laxalt (R-NV)
    Majority Leader: John Chafee (R-RI)
    Majority Whip: William F. Quinn (R-HI)

    Minority Leader: Strom Thurmond (D-SC)
    Minority Whip: Sam Goddard (D-AZ)

    Opposition Leader: George McGovern (P-SD)
    Opposition Whip: Byron Dorgan (P/NPL-ND)

    [​IMG]
    (Orange: GOP and Prog, Green: Dem and Prog, Light Green: Conservative and Prog)


    Alabama-
    2. Fob James (D)
    3. Jeremiah Denton (R)

    Alaska-
    2. Wally Hickel (R)
    3. Clark Greuning (D)

    Arizona-
    1. Cesar Chavez (D)
    3. Samuel Goddard (D)

    Arkansas-
    3. Dale Bumpers (D)
    2. Orval Faubus (D)

    California-
    1. Edwin Meese (R)
    3. Pete McCloskey (R)

    Colorado-

    2. Dick Lamm (P)
    3. William Armstrong (R)

    Connecticut-

    1. Prescott Bush Jr. (R)
    3. Lowell P. Weicker Jr. (P)

    Delaware-

    1. Mike Castle (R)
    2. Joe Biden (I)

    Florida-

    1. Claude Kirk (R)
    3. Claude Pepper (D)

    Georgia-

    2. Lester Maddox (D)
    3. Larry MacDonald (D)

    Hawaii-

    1. William F. Quinn (R)
    3. George Ariyoshi (R)

    Idaho-

    3. Frank Church (D)
    2. Cecil Andrus (D)

    Illinois-

    3. James Thompson (R)
    2. Harold Washington (R)

    Indiana-

    1. Richard Lugar (R)
    3. Birch Bayh (D)

    Iowa-

    2. Terry Branstad (R)
    3. Chuck Grassley (R)

    Kansas-

    2. Robert Docking (D)
    3. Bob Dole (R)

    Kentucky-

    2. Walter Huddleston (D)
    3. Louie B. Nunn (R)

    Louisiana-

    2. Edwin Edwards (D)
    3. Russell Long (D)

    Maine-

    2. Samuel Shapiro (D)
    1. William Cohen (R)

    Maryland-

    1. John Glenn Beall Jr. (R)
    3. William T. Coleman Jr. (R)

    Massachusetts-

    1. Silvio Conte (R)
    2. Francis W. Sargent (R)

    Michigan-

    2. Don Riegle Jr. (R)
    1. George Romney (R)

    Minnesota-

    2. Rudy Boschwitz (R)
    1. Clark McGregor (R)

    Mississippi-

    2. Medgar Evers (R)
    1. John Stennis (D)

    Missouri-

    1. John Danforth (R)
    3. Thomas Eagleton (D)

    Montana-

    1. Pat Williams (D)
    2. Lee Metcalf (D)

    Nebraska-

    1. Edward Zorinsky (R)
    2. J. James Exon (D)

    Nevada-

    3. Robert List (R)
    1. Paul Laxalt (R)

    New Hampshire-

    3. John Durkin (D)
    2. Alan Shepard (R)

    New Jersey-

    2. Bill Bradley (P)
    1. Nicholas Brady (R)

    New Mexico-

    2. Bruce King (D)
    1. Harrison Schmitt (R)

    New York-

    1. Ramsay Clark (P-L)
    3. James Buckley (C)

    North Carolina-

    3. John Broyhill (R)
    2. Jesse Helms (D)

    North Dakota-

    3. William L. Guy (D)
    1. Byron Dorgan (P-NPL)

    Ohio-

    1. Tom Lukin (D)
    3. Robert M. Taft Jr. (R)

    Oklahoma-

    2. Ed Edmonson (D)
    3. Henry Bellmon (R)

    Oregon-

    2. Norma Paulus (R)
    3. Mark Hatfield (R)

    Pennsylvania-

    1. Arlen Specter (R)
    3. W. Wilson Goode (R)

    Rhode Island-

    1. Fernand St. Germain (D)
    2. John Chafee (R)

    South Carolina-

    2. Strom Thurmond (D)
    3. Ernest Hollings (D)

    South Dakota-

    2. George McGovern (P)
    3. Richard F. Kneip (D)

    Tennessee-

    1. Al Gore Jr. (D)
    2. Howard Baker (R)

    Texas-

    1. Kent Hance (D)
    2. George H. W. Bush (R)

    Utah-

    1. Orrin Hatch (R)
    3. Wayne Owens (D)

    Vermont-

    3. Roger MacBride (R)
    1. Patrick Leahy (P)

    Virginia-

    1. Pat Robertson (D)
    2. A. Linwood Holton (R)

    Washington-

    3. Dan Evans (R)
    1. Slade Gorton (R)

    West Virginia-

    2. Arch Moore Jr. (R)
    1. Robert Byrd (D)

    Wisconsin-

    1. Dave Obey (P)
    3. William Dyke (R)

    Wyoming-

    2. Edgar Herschler (D)
    1. Rodger McDaniel (D)
     
  17. Israel Well-Known Member

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    Nice list6!
     
  18. fjihr ├čanned

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    Again, you've gotta love the number of states divided between parties.
     
  19. AnActualFan Member

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    Who does Joe Biden usually side with in Congress, Democrats or Progressives?
     
  20. The Congressman Populist Liberty Conservative

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    Joe Biden caucuses with the GOP
     
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