NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOM: The Wilmot Proviso Passes
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Sam Houston dies, as in OTL, in 1863. After the outbreak of the civil war, he works to prevent Brazos and Austin from seceding. With the end of the war, he retires and dies at his home.
Did he take any part in endorsements during the 1860 election? I wonder what his legacy will be ITTL.
Zachary Taylor will also be interesting to see how he is remembered. On the one hand he was a slaveowner in this era, but he also stayed loyal to the union and died fighting for it.
By the way; with Gibraltar Taylor what is his situation fincially after the war; weren't his family palntation owners?
He endorses Stephen Douglas and the National Party.
Zachary Taylor won't be especially famous, and will be remembered mostly for dying in the Battle of Richmond and for his famous last words.
Gibraltar Taylor's sugar plantation survives the war, and he becomes an important figure in both the shift to free agricultural labor (not sharecropping, that comes along a little later), and a leader in the sugar refinement business in Louisiana. He will also (spoiler alert) be appointed the military governor of Louisiana and Mississippi, and will soon after (more spoilers) begin dabbling in Louisiana politics.
An asterisk (*)denotes the fact that Gary Snyder, owner of the Bushwhackers, is set to rename the team after recent controversy. Two asterisks (**) denote expansion teams.
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I'm halfway through with the next update, so here are the baseball teams in TTL's America!
Ficboy
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An MLB analogue I see. By the way, there should only be one team in San Francisco and Boston. I suggest merging them together and having teams in Nashville and Memphis or specific Southern cities.
I also notice the reference to Dan Snyder and the Washington Redskins for this timeline.
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TTL, San Franscisco is larger, and anyway the Oakland A's are right next door to the Giants, so its not a huge stretch to have SF with two teams. The south already has quite a few teams: the Louisiana Cajuns, the Charlotte Tarheels, the Atlanta Eagles, and the Douglasstown Emancipators.
Fremont, NM is OTL Phoenix, AZ. New Madrid, DN is OTL Salt Lake City, UT.
Ficboy
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Well why not have the other team be based in Oakland since you brought up the Athletics. Boston should only have one team. Toronto ought to have its own team since it is Canada's largest city.
Why shouldnt Boston have two teams? OTL, they had the Sox and the Braves, until the Braves moved to Atlanta. Toronto tried to apply for a team in the 78 expansion, but were passed over in favor of Hermosillo. Of course, I cant really show that in the wikibox.
Not if the Texians beat ‘em!
Ficboy
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Well even some of those teams could still move to other cities like OTL. Toronto could get an expansion team a decade later or two perhaps even with Montreal in 1955 for example.
Teams could move to Toronto, and I did think about giving them one, but ultimately there were other cities I wanted to have teams more, and I didnt want some huge number of teams. I already have four teams more than IOTL, and I dont want to increase that further.
If the Texians dont stop the Cowpokes, the Comanches will give em hell. Go Dallas!
Ficboy
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Toronto is Canada's most important city more so than Montreal and I think we could add at least a team there. Perhaps the MLB analogue undergoes a realignment after more teams are added at some point in its history.
I dont mean to be rude, but no, I am not giving Toronto a team. That list is all of the cities with teams as of 2020 in my timeline. While I understand where you are coming from, I do not want to add any more teams.
I havent really planned that out, but I suppose they have a basketball team, the Kings, perhaps. Hockey is a possibility too. I dont really intend to go into sports that much beyond an occasional reference to baseball.
Ficboy
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Perhaps an Expanded Universe akin to What Madness Is This? could be a good idea for fans of the timeline to flesh out the other details of your world.
Maybe in the future, but this TL isnt nearly far enough along for that sort of thing. I’ll have to see how things develop though.