New Albion, a Region of North America.

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Mekul, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. Mekul Active Member

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    This is a thread about New Albion, a tl under development for a British Pacific Northwest and Northern California. The POD is in 1763, when the treaty ending the Seven Years War secures a British claim down to the 36th parallel. As a result of the Spanish Colonial Empire being altered, the Napoleonic Wars are prolonged by two years as the revolt of the Spanish and Portuguese is delayed. The Personal Union of Hanover and the UK is continued, despite Queen Victoria becoming head of state (As a rule, no OTL people can be born after 1800, however I made an exception for Queen Victoria). In the revolutions of 1848, the Prussian monarchy is deposed, making way for a Republican, united Germany (Fredrick IV was born too far after the pod, making reforms unlikely without him). Between 1848 and 1850, Germany is unified except for Hanover, Oldenburg, Hamburg, and Schleswig, as the revolutions did not spread nearly as much to those states. The French Second Republic lasts for years to come, Napoleon III does not exist in this timeline. Being both republican, France and Germany ally. With a massive republican alliance, Britain has no choice but to ally with Austria. The Italian Proxy War fought between 1857 and 1862 was similar to the Italian Unification, except under pressure from Germany and France, Italy only includes Tuscany, Northern Italy, and Trentino. A WW1 happens in this timeline between 1894 and 1904. I have more to write about the timeline, but I will in different posts. The timeline is roughly developed until 1930.
     
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  3. Chris Triangle Not a real triangle

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    I like how the British named Sacramento "Arboria". A nod to its nickname "city of trees"?
     
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  4. SwordLord Well-Known Member

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    Why are France and Germany allies? Germans and French have historically been enemies since the French existed(arguably the rivalry started in Roman Times). With France owning German land, I find it hard to believe the two of them would make friends.
     
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    There have been many unlikely allies in history, the French and the British come to mind. They were at each others' throats since at least 1200 (Well they were also French at that time but still). Since Germany and France share Republicanism and having Austria and Britain as an enemy, I don't think it's unlikely for Germany to be allied with France.
     
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    This map is already almost a month old, I just decided to update the thread now. I'm jumping far into the future, 1970 to be exact, to the beginning of a Common Market Agreement between New Albion and Canada. The agreement eventually evolves into the North American equivalent of the EU. The newly independent Alaska joined the union in 2019.
     
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    I don't have enough historical knowledge or background to comment on the plausibility, but I do find your maps excellent in terms of aesthetics.
     
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    A summary of the lore from 1904 to present day: The Ottomans lose all Balkan possessions, with the exception of Istanbul and a bit of the surrounding area. However, the Ottomans retain territory in OTL Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, and Palestine. Due to pressure from its French and German allies, the regime changes to a democracy. The Ottoman Empire becomes the Turkish Federation. After the war ends, the economy is in a prosperous state globally. However, by the early 1910's a modest recession took hold. Many newly formed Eastern European countries and Germany resorted to more illiberal governments. Germany's chancellor became chancellor for life. The Baltics, Poland, and Germany formed a defensive and economic agreement. The rise of more nationalistic governments was a response to temporary economic troubles and the threat of communism, quickly becoming ever more mainstream in neighboring Austria-Hungary. France on the other hand continued to build a relationship with the UK. The alliance between Republican France and Germany was gone. In the early 1920's Austria Hungary socialist movements and nationalist movements started to flare up. The Austria-Hungary Civil War began in 1924 with the revolt of the Croatians and Bosnians. The various socialist movements seized the opportunity and revolted. Five main results occurred: Croatian and Bosnian Nationalists, Hungarian Socialists, Czech Socialists, Slovakian Nationalists, and Romanian Nationalists. Little intervention from outside happened and Austria Hungary collapsed. In the aftermath, four states were created: Czech Commune (OTL Czechia), Transleithania (OTL Hungary, Transylvania, Slovakia, Slavonia, and Vojvodina), Austria (OTL Austria and Slovenia), and The Kingdom of Croatians, Bosnians, and Serbs (OTL Croatia - Slavonia and Bosnia Herzegovina).
    Jumping back in time to discuss a bit of East Asia. Japan modernizes somewhat later, preventing their takeover of Korea. Russia then expands into the region, making Manchuria and Korea puppet states.
    Back to Europe, from the late 20's all the way to the late 40's Europe is deeply divided between the democratic governments of Western Europe and the dictatorial-like governments in Central and Eastern Europe. These tensions intensify when Finnish nationalists revolted in 1946. Germany and its allies always supported Finnish nationalism to combat Russia. The tsar quickly accused Germany of starting the revolt and fabricated evidence to back the accusation. This quickly escalates into war. France, UK, Padania, United States, Papal States, Portugal, Russia, Transleithania, Belgium, Greece, and Northwestern Germany were the allies. Germany, Poland, Austria, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Bulgaria, and Japan were the "Central Powers". Although a very imbalanced war, fighting lasted for six years from 1946 to 1952. As Germany and their alliance collapsed, socialist uprisings sprung up as a result. The allies underestimated the importance of the counterbalance. By the mid 60's countries in the world with some kind of socialism included: Poland, Silesia, Czechia, Transleithania, Estonia, Latvia, Romania, Bulgaria, Algeria, and Portugal. Most of these countries were similar to the Marxist-Leninist ideology with the exception of Silesia and Czechia, which both practiced a form of democratic socialism and neutrality. Decolonization happens mostly in the 60's and 70's, with European possessions in Africa ending completely by the mid to late 80's.
    In 1986, Estonia and Latvia declared autonomy from the Poland and Transleithanian centric alliance of socialist nations. This escalated into the Baltic crisis, where Denmark, Sweden, and Turkey blockaded the alliance from operating outside of the Baltic and Black Sea because the alliance violently invaded the two Baltic countries. Within a few months the alliance withdrew troops from Latvia and Estonia. A slow and often bloody process from 1986 to 2009 ended the existence of socialist countries. In 1995, Silesia was reunited with Germany, and in 1998 Czechia transitioned to a less socialist government. All socialist countries transitioned to liberal democracies (or illiberal in some cases) by 2001 except for Transleithania. Transleithania suffered from a civil war between 2002 and 2009 akin to the Yugoslavian Civil War. In the aftermath Slavonia joined Croatia-Bosnia, Vojvodina joined Serbia, Transylvania became an independent country, Slovakia became an independent country, and Hungary assumed its OTL borders including a small chunk of OTL Slovakia.

    I'll post some other lore related to New Albion and other parts of the world.
     
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    One more thing for today, I'm creating a world map set in 1894. Here's a preview: upload_2018-11-25_23-47-17.png
     
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    High Speed lines of New Albion as of 2018.
     
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    List of Prime Ministers of New Albion since 1900.
     
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  14. damein fisher This bad boy can fit so many maps in it

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    Where did you get the base for the world map?
     
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    Major Alliances in the post-socialist world:

    European Authority (A military and economic alliance):
    France
    Germany
    Padania
    Spain
    Portugal
    Czechia
    Austria
    Slovenia
    Two-Sicilies
    Papal States
    Croatia-Bosnia
    Serbia
    Montenegro
    Greece
    Slovakia
    Bulgaria
    Estonia
    Latvia
    Sweden
    Denmark
    Ireland
    Netherlands
    Belgium
    Luxembourg
    Commonwealth of Nations and partners (Military and Free Trade)
    United Kingdom
    Ulster
    Canada
    New Albion
    Alaska
    Russia
    Turkish Federation
    South Africa
    India
    Japan
    Australia
    New Zealand
    Hanover Federation
    Aden

    I'm considering having these two alliances having some kind of tension with one another. It would be nothing like the otl Cold War though.
     
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    Infobox of the Liberal Party of New Albion following the 2017 election. I will be making the infoboxes of other New Albion parties.
     
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    Current composition of the New Albion House of Commons. Yellow = Liberal, Green = Greens, Red = Social Democrats, Blue = Conservative
     
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    WIP map of the Commonwealth of Hanover (Formed after the Central-Periphery War in 1904)
     
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  20. Alexander Helios Heir of Kiskeya and Olympus

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    I like the idea of a British Pacific coast. Does America own the rest of California?
     
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