Neither Turkey nor Ottomans - what else? (AHC/WI)

I've been thinking about the Ottoman Empire and its post-WWI fate, as well as about timelines here on AH.com as well as elsewhere. It seems that there is a narrow pool of outcomes that can happen to the Ottoman Empire (according to the denizens of this site) after WWI, depending on the results of the war:


  • Entente wins. The Empire is dismembered. In the best case scenario, it's something like OTL, where Turkey keeps Istanbul and many territories inhabited by Armenians and Kurds. In the worst case scenario, Turkey is screwed even more, with things like Greek Constantinople and a fully realized Megali idea, independent Kurdistan, wanked Wilsonian Armenia, sometimes even a Kingdom of Pontus as a Greek or Russian (if they survive the war intact) puppet. Ethnic cleansing is likely in these scenarios since many of these territories are mostly Turkish. An option loved by Byzantophiles and as well as people who love placing as many small countries that didn't exist IOTL, but could have, as possible.
  • CP wins. Ottomans stay intact, Arab revolts are suppressed successfully, either peacefully or bloodily, with maybe some losses in Arabia at most (but keeping Syria, Iraq...). Generally, this leads to the Ottomans reforming into a constitutional monarchy and extensive minority rights granted to Arabs and other minorities within the Empire. Ottomans survive until the present day, easily, with maybe minor territorial fluctuations either way in future wars. A favorite of Ottoman-philes and monarchists, but generally done almost every time the Central Powers win because people have no idea what else to do with the Ottomans.
So, are there any other options? I'm looking primarily for options with a POD between 1900-1918, or at least not too far back. The conditions are that there must be a republic, or something else that's not a hereditary monarchy (whatever that would be), and it must not be a Turkish (or any other ethnic) nationalist state, but something that's (theoretically, at least) equally inclusive of all nationalities within what's left of the Empire. Do any of you see something like this plausibly happening? If so, how would it work, who would create it, and what would the name of such a formation be (that's something I'm especially interested in)?


Personally, my only idea so far was going back to the beginning of Mustafa Kemal's emergence, and exposing him to Marxist ideals a bit better, making him more of a (pseudo-?)Marxist and less of just a left-populist nationalist. That way maybe he could push for a more equal union of the empire's peoples - if WWI ends with a white peace or a marginal victory for the Entente that isn't enough to shatter the Ottomans, he could exploit the post-war situation, creating a bilingual government and protection for minorities. (For this, we'd also need to butterfly away parts of his personality though, like his tendencies for ethnic cleansing...) My only problem with this solution is that I don't see the Ottoman Empire's territory as very fertile grounds for building socialism. Either way, what do you people think?
 
Austria Hungry is often portrayed on this site as too unstable to last through the the 20th century even with a CP victory. I'm not sure how stable the ottomans where but I think keeping the Arabian peninsula is unlikely. It would be interesting if they actually gain territory in the Caucasus from Russia.
 
The best case scenario IMHO is for the Ottomans not to be brought into the war in 1914. For that to happen, you have to keep the SMS Goeben and SMS Breslau from reaching Istanbul. The best chance for that to happen is for Admiral Troubridge's squadron to engage the Germans on August 7. While he may not sink the Goeben, he could sink the Breslau and damage the German BC enough to keep her from reaching Istanbul, enabling Milne's fleet to catch up and sink her. Without the German ships in Istanbul's harbor, the Ottomans will more than likely stay out of the war until a clear victor emerges.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pursuit_of_Goeben_and_Breslau
 
Ahistorical Islamist caliphate?

Well, is a Caliphate without the Ottoman Sultan (and without the Sultanate itself) plausible? Especially with Kemal probably pushing for its abolition in any case? If so, how would it work, who would implement it?

The best case scenario IMHO is for the Ottomans not to be brought into the war in 1914. For that to happen, you have to keep the SMS Goeben and SMS Breslau from reaching Istanbul. The best chance for that to happen is for Admiral Troubridge's squadron to engage the Germans on August 7. While he may not sink the Goeben, he could sink the Breslau and damage the German BC enough to keep her from reaching Istanbul, enabling Milne's fleet to catch up and sink her. Without the German ships in Istanbul's harbor, the Ottomans will more than likely stay out of the war until a clear victor emerges.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pursuit_of_Goeben_and_Breslau

Well, yeah, that's plausible I suppose - but doesn't satisfy the initial conditions (no rule of the House of Osman). Again, what I'm looking for is:

The conditions are that there must be a republic, or something else that's not a hereditary monarchy (whatever that would be), and it must not be a Turkish (or any other ethnic) nationalist state, but something that's (theoretically, at least) equally inclusive of all nationalities within what's left of the Empire.
 

SunDeep

Banned
A more severe Arab Revolt, fully backed by the Entente from the outset in 1916 instead of just by the British from 1918 onwards as IOTL, succeeds in overthrowing the Ottoman regime completely and replacing the Ottoman Dynasty with that of the Sharifian Caliphate, theoretically inclusive of all nationalities and ethnicities in the Empire (so long as you're Muslim). Does a Caliphate count as not being a hereditary monarchy, given that the position of Caliph is supposed to be elected?
 

yourworstnightmare

Banned
Donor
A Ottoman Empire that survives the war butis smaller if the Entente wins is a possibility, You just need a PoD early in the war, and less bad press about the Ottomans (basically you need saner people in charge of the Empire, but saner people would probably never enter the war in the first Place).
 
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