Negotaiated Nazi-Soviet peace after successful Barbarossa?

1 and 2. Yes. Stalin would have done this to save his skin, and in the context you describe, just about anyone in the Soviet heirarchy would have gone along. The problem is...I doubt that Hitler would have offered him a negotiated peace in 1941-42 when he had the upper hand, since he had some very nasty plans afoot.

Ot if he did, the terms would be draconian, much worse than Brest-Litvosk. I wouldn't be surprised if the Nazis demanded nothing less than the entire Soviet Union west of the Urals. The Nazis' genocide and resettlement program for the Soviet Union was a key reason they fought the USSR in the first place. These plans did not allow for the survival of an independent USSR anywhear in the european part of the Soviet Union.

And after 1942-43, any offer by Hitler to end the war in the east short of his absolute defeat would be rejected by Stalin...unless somehow the Western Allies backstabbed him by accepting a separate peace with Germany

Not to mention that Brest-Litovsk itself was a peace that was won by the sword also. There was a bit in 1918 where the Germans were fighting their first war with the Bolsheviks and actually not doing too badly for themselves. Things like putting Germans in the Baku region in 1918 helped contribute to the war in the West ending in 1918 as it put German manpower uselessly. And in 1918, with Russia in the middle of a civil war, that was difficult enough. In 1941 the problems just *start* with getting Hitler to find a concept of a peace treaty useful at all, which he would not and never had any concept of so doing.
 

Rubicon

Banned
Not to mention that Brest-Litovsk itself was a peace that was won by the sword also. There was a bit in 1918 where the Germans were fighting their first war with the Bolsheviks and actually not doing too badly for themselves. Things like putting Germans in the Baku region in 1918 helped contribute to the war in the West ending in 1918 as it put German manpower uselessly.


Baku was not within the occupied zone of the Brest-Litovsk treaty
Armisticebrestlitovsk.jpg


'merely' the entire Ukraine was occupied, together with the Baltics and part of Belorussia
 
Baku was not within the occupied zone of the Brest-Litovsk treaty

'merely' the entire Ukraine was occupied, together with the Baltics and part of Belorussia

No, but that didn't stop Hindenburg and Ludendorff from sending troops there. This partially is what motivated Dunsterforce in 1918. And it's also what helped save Transcaucasia from the Bolsheviks for a few years.
 
Top