Needs Help With a POD for Earlier and Bloodier WWI?

Well I'm working on an AH story I've been concocting for a while. But I'm having trouble settling on a POD that could start WWI earlier or at least US entry into. Also I would like to make it far more bloodier for all sides. The point is for there to be no clear winner. All sides should be bleed dry, ripe for revolutions and counter-revolutions. So, does anyone have any suggestions to help me out.
 

Jlinker613

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1904 with the Russo Japanese war. France and Britain were allied with Russia and Japan respectively, and you'd probably have all of Europe joining in the fight in order to reap as many benefits as possible.

WW1 should have been a war limited to Austria-Hungary and Serbia, instead a long network of alliances turned into the bloodiest European war up to that point. A similar prospect could have occurred with the Russo-Japanese war if Britain and France kept their alliances.

Theodore Roosevelt also happened to be President at this point in time, and he happened to be the last US President to romanticize warfare as a bit of a gentleman's game, so for the Pride of the United States (and the wealth of the British/French colonies around the Americas and the Caribbean) the United States may pick a side.
 
1904 with the Russo Japanese war. France and Britain were allied with Russia and Japan respectively, and you'd probably have all of Europe joining in the fight in order to reap as many benefits as possible.

WW1 should have been a war limited to Austria-Hungary and Serbia, instead a long network of alliances turned into the bloodiest European war up to that point. A similar prospect could have occurred with the Russo-Japanese war if Britain and France kept their alliances.

Theodore Roosevelt also happened to be President at this point in time, and he happened to be the last US President to romanticize warfare as a bit of a gentleman's game, so for the Pride of the United States (and the wealth of the British/French colonies around the Americas and the Caribbean) the United States may pick a side.

Thank you very much. I believe this benefits me well. I don't know why I didn't think of that. Also the way the alliances are drawn is nice too. But I was thinking a little later than 1904. I'm still going to keep this in mind regardless.
 
There was an incident in 1911 I think over something or other. Think it was in North Africa. And it nearly did explode into a war.

There's also always the Civil War becoming a World War thing. The CSA gets Britain and France, America gets Russia, and Russia in turn calls upon their friendship with Prussia.
 

Delta Force

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America entering on the side of the Central Powers would certainly make the war a lot more deadly. The US would have to fight against the Japanese Empire in the Pacific and the British Empire in the Caribbean, Atlantic, and in Canada. The US would be spread quite thin, but the British Empire would also have some problems of its own because it would have to divert forces from the blockade of Germany to defend convoys traveling between Canada and the UK and conduct naval operations off the coast of the US.
 
A POD that would potentially do this is to have the Russians alter their decisions from the expensive fortresses that hamstrung them IOTL and instead investing in the production of a proper artillery force, so that the Russians have a much more formidable artillery arm from the start of the war, as opposed to getting it right in time for Tsarism's political collapse. Thus the key German advantage is nullified in terms of simple tactics and Germany is condemned to two bleedings, one in the West, the other in the East.....
 
1898/99 spainish American war and boer wars and the Fashoda incident have britian, the US and Japan vs Germany, spain and holland and them ve France and Russia
 

Anaxagoras

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There were several crises in the years leading up to 1914 in the Balkans and Morocco that might conceivably have lead to an earlier outbreak of war.
 
There was an incident in 1911 I think over something or other. Think it was in North Africa. And it nearly did explode into a war.

There's also always the Civil War becoming a World War thing. The CSA gets Britain and France, America gets Russia, and Russia in turn calls upon their friendship with Prussia.

I will def check that out. That's a better time period. But ACW is not way too early for my planned TL. The events in the TL will take place directly after TTL's WWI. It will be written narratively through the growth of two American teenagers. So, you won't here much of the outside world. That's why I wanna go ahead and flesh out the premise.

America entering on the side of the Central Powers would certainly make the war a lot more deadly. The US would have to fight against the Japanese Empire in the Pacific and the British Empire in the Caribbean, Atlantic, and in Canada. The US would be spread quite thin, but the British Empire would also have some problems of its own because it would have to divert forces from the blockade of Germany to defend convoys traveling between Canada and the UK and conduct naval operations off the coast of the US.
I'll also consider this, depends on the chosen POD though.
A POD that would potentially do this is to have the Russians alter their decisions from the expensive fortresses that hamstrung them IOTL and instead investing in the production of a proper artillery force, so that the Russians have a much more formidable artillery arm from the start of the war, as opposed to getting it right in time for Tsarism's political collapse. Thus the key German advantage is nullified in terms of simple tactics and Germany is condemned to two bleedings, one in the West, the other in the East.....
Will def have to include this, thanks.
1898/99 spainish American war and boer wars and the Fashoda incident have britian, the US and Japan vs Germany, spain and holland and them ve France and Russia
Again too early for what I have planned.
There were several crises in the years leading up to 1914 in the Balkans and Morocco that might conceivably have lead to an earlier outbreak of war.
Again this fits with what I'm going for will check these out.
 
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