Need example of a "south wins ACW" timeline for reporter

Ian the Admin

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I did an interview for a minor media outlet about this site, and I'd like an example of a certain kind of timeline to give to the reporter. Specifically, a timeline where the south wins the civil war and then gives up slavery on its own. The kind of thing that makes favorable assumptions about what the Confederacy would be like, but isn't a TOTAL wank.

I could obviously just dig up some of Robert Perkins' stuff but it would be nice to see what you guys think. Within the next twelve hours or so. :)
 
I did an interview for a minor media outlet about this site, and I'd like an example of a certain kind of timeline to give to the reporter. Specifically, a timeline where the south wins the civil war and then gives up slavery on its own. The kind of thing that makes favorable assumptions about what the Confederacy would be like, but isn't a TOTAL wank.

I could obviously just dig up some of Robert Perkins' stuff but it would be nice to see what you guys think. Within the next twelve hours or so. :)

Heart of Dixie by @ToixStory.........i think.
 
I did an interview for a minor media outlet about this site, and I'd like an example of a certain kind of timeline to give to the reporter. Specifically, a timeline where the south wins the civil war and then gives up slavery on its own. The kind of thing that makes favorable assumptions about what the Confederacy would be like, but isn't a TOTAL wank.

I could obviously just dig up some of Robert Perkins' stuff but it would be nice to see what you guys think. Within the next twelve hours or so. :)
isn't that basically TL-191?
 
I did an interview for a minor media outlet about this site, and I'd like an example of a certain kind of timeline to give to the reporter. Specifically, a timeline where the south wins the civil war and then gives up slavery on its own. The kind of thing that makes favorable assumptions about what the Confederacy would be like, but isn't a TOTAL wank.

I could obviously just dig up some of Robert Perkins' stuff but it would be nice to see what you guys think. Within the next twelve hours or so. :)
I had then give slavery up on their own in one of my TLs
 

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Let's post 1000s of Sealion and Barbarossa TLs to prove them wrong!
Don't even need to go that far, just post Central Powers victory maps and hope that the people who argue in the comment sections of news articles are able to tell the difference between WW1 and WW2.

It turns out that we have two excellent Trent Affair timelines happening right now.
Also in terms of America centered timelines, @Viriato's Portuguese and French American timelines would probably fit the bill of being a recognizable interesting idea (different empire colonizing America) while not being Confederate.
 
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It turns out that we have two excellent Trent Affair timelines happening right now.

Well there is my TL Wrapped in Flames which deals with a Civil War scenario around British intervention in the war. Haven't gotten past 1862 yet but I suppose it could be used as an example. It's not really Confederate centered though, Saphs deals with some stuff after the war, and we have an incomplete TL here called The Confederacy which might be of use.
 
Wouldn't using such an unlikely type of timeline damage our reputation for historicity and plausibility, not to mention call our objectivity into question with someone who's never seen the board?
 
Wouldn't using such an unlikely type of timeline damage our reputation for historicity and plausibility, not to mention call our objectivity into question with someone who's never seen the board?

It's one of the most bog standard AH scenarios imaginable. It's pretty easy to come to grips with what alternate history is through that lens. Good alternate history can be found in many forms, and honestly going right in with WWII scenarios is almost to on the nose IMHO.
 
I also have bad vibes here, there's been lots of controversy over the Confeds in the US recently, and if the interviewer specifically asked for this sort of timeline, this is a frameup. I'd advise inquiring about a good media lawyer, a lot of us really like this website (Like Me). This website doesn't seem full of neo-Confederates and if they want to represent us as a bunch of flaming racists I'd advise being ready to come in hot with an action for libel.

Synopsis: RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!
 

Ian the Admin

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I brought up the subject of ACW timelines and couldn't think of an example at the time. The only examples I got here were The Black and the Grey (which is 10+ years old) and Heart of Dixie, so that's what I went with.
 
And the classic all-time, Turtledove's Guns of the South. Robert E. Lee runs for the presidency of the Confederacy, and one of the planks of his platform is a plan where abolitionists can put their money where their mouth is and purchase the freedom of any slave at a price to be decided by qualified appraiser, and the slave's "owner" cannot refuse this price.

Don't want to give away the whole story, but there's an everyman character who directly defends this as a good and useful safety valve.

* I think there's a surprising percentage of Alternate History members who have not read this novel, and that's perfectly okay. Harry Turtledove is not everyone's cup of tea.
 
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